“We haven’t attacked Ukraine either. We’re defending our territory”, “Ukraine was ours then [in USSR], too!”, “It [Ukraine] was always part of Russia”, - this Russian woman is a good illustration of how an average Russian person sees the war and Ukraine. It is a mix of propaganda, ignorance and stereotypes, with little independent thinking.
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The object of propaganda is to overwhelm critical thinking and annihilate the truth.
Fuck me this is depressing. How many Ukrainians have to tell them to fuck off and leave them alone before they realise?
Why are they so deluded? Nobody ever spent a moment thinking about russia, yet they think everyone was bothered.
lol I wish they would fuck off, but just imagine that most people around you (and me) will happily kill and torture anyone if that was allowed (as it is in Russia right now)
most people around you (and me) will happily kill and torture anyone
Bull. Shit.
Meh, I keep my opinion. How many people supported nazis during ww2? Hmmm about a shit metric ton % of the whole population in Germany. Lots of intellectuals there, and blue collars, all marching together to a Nazi Future.
You can obviously live your whole life happily (I hope so) and never to experience anything like that, but I am pretty sure my nice neighbor would be the first to do a happy dance if our respective countries went to war with each other.
There is no “inherently morally superior” population, most people are as dumb as rocks!
Most people have a lot of talk and balk at any action.
Most people have never been punched in the mouth.
Most people have never punched anyone in the mouth.
The vocal community who says they want war, death, destruction and violence are mostly full of shit and would cower at any real violence.
This muppet is editing their posts 500 times a minute. Now we’re on to nazis. Jesus rus bot christ. 😂
? i am not editing anything, all my replies are untouched
While i disagree with you, i don’t see you editing your posts. No idea where that argument is coming from
Erm… Wut? Don’t understand
Okey I am rephrasing: while this grandma looks absolutely insane from outsider’s perspective, this grandma is a just a regular grandma brainwashed by propaganda.
I am stating here that given right circumstances, many people would be like her. So “Why are they so deluded?” is nonsense
I have absolutely no idea what you are on about
I hate talking to tankies. Its like a gps recalculating at every turn.
If we go back, why not go further back? To the kingdom of Kyiv, where everything was Ukraine? Stupid I know, but it’s the same logic.
I mean technically it was the other way around. The Kievan Rus was both Ukraine and Russia but the seat of power was in Kyiv
That’s a bit like saying that Germany (one can add France) was part of Netherlands cause Franks.
Wrong too. It’s just that “separatism” is not anything bad.
And here we’d have a huge problem with most Ukrainians as well.
They often think that they themselves are entitled to a separate nation on their own land and so on. But, say, Crimean Greeks, if after Stalin such a thing would remain in sufficient numbers, are not. I’m not talking about Crimean Tatars cause those are not native to Crimea. Or Armenians in Artsakh. Or Abkhazians, or South Ossetians.
They in majority really consider themselves exceptional, like other nations who are somehow great enough to have a state and unlike those who are not. A part of a club, so to say. That chauvinism has to go before I’ll be able to support anything connected to Ukrainian nationalism.
Somehow so many people fail this little test. Russia is the aggressor both now and in 2014 and in 2008. But people in Crimea who’d sincerely want to not be part of Ukraine are in their right (I don’t think they are too numerous now, though), just as Abkhazians (not to ethnically cleanse Mengrel Georgians, but to their own country) and South Ossetians (same limitations) and obviously Artsakh Armenians.
Germany, France, Belgian, all of western europe belong to the Frisians ngl
Eh, how so? Even Flanders isn’t in once Frisian lands. Most of Netherlands and parts of Lower Saxony and Slesvig - yes.
