• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    Anderton said that in a future world of “meritocracy”, the UK could “regain” former colonies such as Australia, Canada and South Africa.

    Dude really needs to stop talking.

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      22 days ago

      This clown has clearly got his entire education of history and civilisation from far-right fan-fiction videos and eschewed the high quality education he was offered for free. Someone with even a passing GCSE level understanding of the world would not make such ridiculous statements.

      If the world was actually a meritocracy, his judgement has demonstrated he is severely lacking in any merit whatsoever.

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        21 days ago

        Seriously, if it were a meritocracy, the only merit to his existence would be keeping the guillotine in tip top shape.

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      22 days ago

      He didn’t

      he mentioned India and Ireland too

      I’m no historian, but I vaguely recall reading somewhere that British rule in those countries were uh… “somewhat controversial”

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      22 days ago

      He was going to add more but it was past his bedtime and his mom wouldn’t let him stay out because it was a school night.

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      22 days ago

      Dude needs to get out of politics and make a living giving head in bus station toilets as a way of regaining his self-respect.

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    22 days ago

    Wowzers, what a dipshit. I think it’s much better for the world that Britain was forced to give up all of its colonies.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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    22 days ago

    UK have to fight in WW2 because their colonies is being attack, and also Nazi is drawing close. Is he suggesting British Empire to just go “whoop i don’t really want that place, you can have it” and stay put and let the Nazi roll them over? Is he dumb

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    22 days ago

    I mean given what’s been happening these last two years and given US imperial wars since 1945, World War 2 looks less like a fight between fascism and democracy and more like a battle over which flavour of genocidal white supremacy would rule: Teutonic or Anglo Saxon.

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      22 days ago

      So let me get this straight… you think it would have been better or roughly the same to let Hitler continue killing millions of Jewish people, gay people, black people, and Roma people because the US has allowed Israel to kill a couple hundred thousand Palestinians?

      Don’t get me wrong, I am very much against the genocide happening in Gaza and no longer want to live in the US based on how the rest of the country is acting now. And I get how much damage we have caused over the last 50 years. But holy shit what an unbelievably stupid take to think letting the Nazis been would have been equivalent… just wow.

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        22 days ago

        We will never know the counterfactual but the paradigm that this was a black and white struggle against a genocidal regime has been completely discredited by the US sponsored genocide in Gaza. It’s clear that genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass murder, which were once cited as justifications for destroying the Nazi regime, are now treated as non-issues when applied by the US to maintain its global hegemony. I’m being downvoted because this is a polemical and unorthodox opinion but I’m certain this will become a more mainstream view, at least in academia, now that the mask has fallen on what the US Empire really stands for.

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          You’re being downvoted because you’re doing the “I’m 13 and this is deep.” If you are equating putting millions of people into furnaces with the stated cause to eradicate them, to supplying arms to a country that is bombing a country without care for who dies with the stated cause of rescuing their hostages (bullshit) and avenging an attack on their soil (true), then you have no idea the scope of WW2.

          You are also saying that since we did something bad now that our actions 85 years ago are now invalid. I can’t even begin to describe how stupid that makes you sound. Again, I agree with saying that the US is the villain right now and doing awful, horrific things. But A) you really have no concept how bad WW2 was, and B) nobody has any idea how bad it would have gotten if the US hadn’t stepped in during WW2. The whole world should be fighting Israel and the US on what is going on right now. But that doesn’t suddenly make what we did 85 years ago an evil action. It’s such a mind-bogglingly stupid take.

          If you think our bad actions now mean all of our previous actions are bad, then that means you think us supporting Ukraine is also bad. Do you think the US should stop supporting Ukraine?

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            22 days ago

            The genocide is not an aberration it is a logical outcome of imperial white supremacy.

            You are labouring under the assumption that America is the good guy. Go read Chomsky or something.