This is coming from a neurodivergent guy. I just don’t get it. I mean, I know it’s probably because we act differently, but WHY EXACTLY do some people decide we’re lesser than neurotypical people?

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    Guy, it’s simple. Human nature is to ostracize what is different. You know, social hierarchy and all that shit. I don’t get why you don’t get it.

    That said, it’s deplorable and needs to change.

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      That’s not human nature that’s the product of a society that demands conformity, hierarchy, and defines community through exclusion. You wouldn’t say its in a coal miner’s nature to have black lung.

      Edit: Hold on you might have been being sarcastic idk I’m in this thread for a reason lmao

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        No. Not being sarcastic. You’ve got to look at it from a historical context. Liberalism and tolerance are relatively newer concepts.

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          Liberalism yeah but tolerance has existed for as long as humans have formed community. I’d argue that prejudice and bigotry, in the way we experience them today and at the scale we see today, are far newer.

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        Tribalism is literally human nature, though. People have a natural tendency to have a group they consider their own, and those outside of that group. It absolutely is human nature, and has been for thousands of years.

        product of a society that demands conformity, hierarchy, and defines community through exclusion

        Have you ever thought that maybe those happened because of human nature, and not the other way around?

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          Have you ever thought that maybe those happened because of human nature, and not the other way around?

          Yes acually, I believed that most of my life until I started my education in history and anthropology. Through my studies I was exposed to many societies which did not define themselves through exclusionary definitions. Mostly these were small hunter gatherer societies that were not in direct competition with other groups for resources. I’d be more inclined to argue that it is scarcity of resources that originally created the conditions for tribalism as you describe it. If you removed the incentive for tribalism by removing scarcity I do not believe it would have come about but we also wouldn’t have ever formed a sedentary agricultural society so you win some and you lose some.

          Is tribalism human nature or is caring for those close to you above all in the face of scarcity human nature?