• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
      241·
      5 months ago

      Until you run an apt command and both snapd and snaps get forcibly reinstalled.

      Just don’t use Ubuntu. If you need to stay in the Debian ecosystem then just use Debian with KDE.

      • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        6·
        5 months ago

        Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, but removes or otherwise avoids most of the problems with Ubuntu.

        It doesn’t come with KDE, but it’s a solid option for those not quite comfortable with Debian or Linux in general (or people who prefer Ubuntu as a base).

        There’s also LMDE if you want a Debian base.

        • Successful_Try543@feddit.org
          3·
          5 months ago

          It doesn’t come with KDE

          It doesn’t come with KDE preinstalled

          You can e.g. mintify your Kununtu by installing Linux Mint packages instead of the original Ubuntu packages (add the corresponding LM repos matching your Ubuntu version and give them a sufficiently higher priority) or, alternatively, install KDE on Linux Mint.

          • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3·
            5 months ago

            I’ve heard that KDE on Mint can be a bit temperamental. I assume because most of their stuff is focused around GTK instead of QT and adding KDE somehow messes with stuff.

            • Successful_Try543@feddit.org
              2·
              5 months ago

              Of course one should avoid using the originally provided GTK software under KDE, as it’s also spamming the app drawer.

              It should work the same as for the Ubuntu -> Kununtu transition: Install some KDE Plasma desktop metapackage, logout and login using KDE, then remove the libgtk* packages to uninstall the Mate/Cinnamon desktop and it’s associated applications. One can reinstall the desired packages, e.g. Firefox, Thunderbird, Synaptic, afterwards.

      • NeilBrü@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        5 months ago

        @BlameTheAntifa, I disagree. To test your claim, I ran a search with admin privileges for snap and snapd on my Kubuntu LTS workstation, and there’s no trace of it.

        Also, the following is from a query to Gemini Flash 2.5:

        Kubuntu’s minimal install, especially in version 24.04 and later, generally does not install any Snap packages and often leaves out the snapd service by default, resulting in a snap-free system. Be cautious, as installing certain common applications like Firefox from the default repositories may still pull in snapd as a dependency.

  • deathmetal27@lemmy.world
    7·
    5 months ago

    That is the original from? I’m guessing some look alike competition.

    I’d love to use that as a meme template.

  • jobbies@lemmy.zip
    4·
    5 months ago

    So Ubuntu in human form looks like one of Saddam Hussain’s decoys? Interesting.

  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    5 months ago

    Someone correct me if I’m wrong here but Ubuntu is based off of Debian, therefore Ubuntu based distros are actually Debian based?

    Or do they all have the same snap integration like Ubuntu does?

    • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
      8·
      5 months ago

      Ubuntu is Debian based yes. Not all ubuntu-based comes with snap (for example Mint). Sometimes I think “why are there so many different distros? We only need like five of them”, but then, sometimes I think it’s a strength, each distro exploring a new direction to see what works.

        • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
          2·
          5 months ago

          Back in the day, ubuntu used to be the most user friendly distro. Linux for humans. It has a faster release cycle by not following stable debian releases. It had hardware support that you had to jump through hoops in debian to get. A great community. It made sense to base mint on ubuntu.

          • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            5 months ago

            That’s about where things were when I started using Mint about 11 years ago. Ubuntu has kind of strayed from that obvious choice to hand to newbies. Mint has been sitting around saying “No, we’re not doing that, because it’s user hostile” on anything from Gnome to Snap.

        • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
          2·
          5 months ago

          Do you think you would have that opinion if you ran arch on mission critical production servers for a couple of years?

            • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
              1·
              5 months ago

              Well, for the sake of clarity, lets separate stability and reliability? Stability means unchanging. Reliable means it won’t crash or behave in unexpected ways.

                • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
                  2·
                  5 months ago

                  If you have a better word for the concept of unchanging functionality and interfaces, I’m open to using that in this context. In describing distros, I’ve only come across the word stable for this. Reliable is a wider concept to me, and also includes being relatively free of bugs. A stable distro can still be buggy, if it’s the same bugs tomorrow as yesterday.