why do i need to update the app so i can see changes. Whats the point of a change log then? I have auto updates off cause it a hassle to revert back to an earlier version if I dont like the changes. I know for a fact the ig update is for their new stupid map feature and AI shit. I will not update unless it stops working completely. Is it so hard to say what specific bug was fixed and what exactly do you mean by performance. why cant it be detailed like this

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    I can understand a banking app such as Chime* wanting to obfuscate whatever bugs or potential exploits they’ve come across and patched - to prevent users on older versions from being targeted; but the rest of those examples are utterly bullshit.

    I put forward Duolingo as another egregious example of this bullshit:

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        I find it deeply offensive that an app could suggest I may not know the word “cornucopia.” I wouldn’t give a shit if it was the only app I could use to pay my bills; if it at any point suggested that I didn’t know a word as common as “cornucopia,” I would delete it immediately, leave a 0 star review, and post the offense to a community like this.

        And just to be clear, the bar for how uncommon a word would have to be in order for it not be offensive is way higher than cornu-fucking-copia.

        “Terpsichorean.” That’s a word I wouldn’t be offended if they thought I didn’t know it. Or maybe “legerdemain.” I know both of those words, but I wouldn’t be offended.

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          Hmm, those are cool

          Terpsichorean - “pertaining to dance” Legerdemain - “someone who is particularly skilled with one’s hands in the use of conjuring tricks”

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        That was the most upsetting of all of the examples. How condescending (GoOgLe iT). What an ass.

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    You expect them to admit:

    • Implemented more aggressive collection of personal data to sell to advertisers.

    • Advertisers of medical and beauty supplements are now suggested to your teenage daughter if she deleted her picture minutes after not receieving likes.

    • Users who advocate for neonazi and genocidal idologies now get suggested to each other to better promote and organize which returns higher profit of targetted advertisements as their usage time and activities increase together.

    • As part of our new monitoring and speech policy, users are now allowed to use the word retard, removed, f-word, tranny, and n-word with hard R without their posts getting flagged or reviewed which allows for better targetted advertisements and higher revenue for the Zuck.

    • Data collection now includes geophraphical tracking of your friends and intrests of people you follow giving higher revenue for shareholders.

    • Implemented analysis of background data collection of users usage and screen time, which gives higher profits per click to our targetted adveretisers.

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        lmao…! Yes Lemmy censored my comment but I hope I dont get banned for it. I was mocking facebook content policy changes which the Zuck implemented to lick Trump’s removed which was part of his $25Million settlement to avoid repercussions for banning his account back when Biden was in Office.

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    • more ads
    • more pointless notifications
    • taken out that one thing you actually liked and put it behind a paywall
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      The meal planning app that I use got bought out by Samsung and they did this. Put a load of ads in and then advertised a “+” version that got rid of ads. The ads were just advertising the “+” feature. 12 months later they said they were going to remove the ads for everyone.

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      The app must be so fast that it has transcended to a higher plane of existence if it gets faster every update.

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    I would rather no change log than the LLM generated fall thing… that was a waste of time to read.

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    “We’re updating the segmentation logic of our A/B test infrastructure to downgrade its respect for the CloudFlare score when deciding whether or not to mark a session as coming from a bot. This was skewing the data on several of our start screen UI experiments, particularly within APAC data.”

    Sometimes, you really don’t want to hear it ;D

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        Maybe this didn’t come across from my example but my point was that a lot of changes are internal, highly technical, housekeeping, etc and unintelligible without proprietary knowledge of the entire codebase and a full code diff. It’s not going to be the benefit you think it is, and it is not reasonable to expect a full diff with every release - unless you want to go use open source software for everything.

        If you want to add your desire to the list of pie-in-the-sky things that would be ideal to have in life, fine, but it’s not practical or useful in reality. Even the publishers who appear to be doing what you want are not telling you everything. There is always an undercurrent of technical housekeeping. And sometimes that’s ALL there is.

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    I 100% agree that proper changelog should be provided, but to defend devs a litte, the play store changelog character limit makes it almost useless for anything but very small changes.

    Though doing funny haha in the changelog is so dumb, they should be like “this changelog field can’t handle the changes, please see the changelog inside the app”

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      please see the changelog inside the app

      Is the hope that, after updating and checking the changelog and deciding that updating is NOT for you because of some idiotic breaking-change, you just hop in the time machine and prevent yourself from updating ?

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        The hope is that its at least better than nothing and at least available at all.

        It’s especially better than the cringe attempts at being funny or cute.

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        I mean, realistically it’s not possible to keep using an older version anyway. After a month or two it might stop working due to backend changes, unless it’s truly an offline app like a calculator, then maybe it will only break after a longer period.

        So your choice is update or uninstall anyway.

        Like, do you seriously know anyone who uses “this app, version from March 2022” and “that app, version from January 2023” because that’s their favourite versions of these apps? It’s just not a thing that happens.

        Just like for websites. But I don’t ever see people complaining that websites don’t usually have changelogs. You just get the latest version every time you refresh and you can’t do anything about it. And if they don’t like changes, they stop using it, not try to reverse time.

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    For apps with generic update messages that also have source control and changelogs available: check to see how often the updates are just a manifest version bump and nothing more. Way greater than zero.

    Most version revs for apps are just to reset review count and bury negative reviews with “review of an older version”.

    It’s all gamification of walled gardens. Walled gardens that need to die.

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      Is that an iOS thing? On Android versions don’t reset reviews, and there is no “review of older version” message.

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        Play store does the same game. Google always sucks worse these days, sadly. Not pro-Apple, just use Linux.

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          I’ve never seen that happen, in fact bad reviews about problems in my apps keep being shown at the top of the list, even though the problems were solved years ago and the reviews are about a very early version.

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        I created a folder using Simple Gallery but it couldn’t see it. I created a couple more with the same issue. Google Files saw them just fine. Simple Gallery does see them now. I’m guessing that the issue had something to do with the Android 16 upgrade though I didn’t update the app and there wasn’t a follow-up update to the upgrade.

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      Google does a lot of A/B testing, so listing new changes may be pointless as the new features may be available only to select few.

      Also developers have no incentive to document changes. It’s a hassle to compile a list of changes since last release, and people don’t read the Changelog for every release, especially with auto updates on.

      I’d be great if they could at least use an LLM to compile the Changelog