- cross-posted to:
- technology@beehaw.org
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- technology@beehaw.org
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hank is hero
Because capitalism can’t wait to completely get rid of this pesky workers.
Because if we don’t build and profit from the Torment Nexus, someone else will
And that Torment Nexus will kill everyone who didn’t put their best into making that Torment Nexus a reality.
That’s Roku’s Basilisk
What about Roku’s Torment Nexus?
I don’t think there is a good reason. It’s an interesting ability for a model. I can see the appeal why people are interested in much the same way I can understand why people climb mountains. Wouldn’t wanna do it myself but I can see why you like it kind of way. For me this falls into the category of “the general public doesn’t need to have access to this.” I get mad when I hear people talk about it in terms of what is and isn’t allowed in it. “And then I tried to put a light saber in it and that was okay but I couldn’t make me into Super Mario.” You just created enough heat in a server farm that will kill a polar bear, that needs to be cooled with future drinking water we need to desalinate, and you have huffed some more air in the hyped up bubble economy surrounding so-called AI. All so you can see where the model draws the copyright line? And if you think that I was modest in my hyperbole, you’ll probably agree with me when I say in a similar spirit that we as a species deserve to eradicate ourselves off this planet.
The so-called AI peddlers have the same problem as news peddlers online. It’s fucking hard to turn users into paying subscribers. And they need to turn a profit at some point. It’s the merciless mechanics of capitalism that dumps all these models on an unprepared general public at dumping prices. A drive to increase shareholder value above any other consideration. It’s time to change that.
And I’m not opposed to this model existing. Research it, fine tune it, offer it for the actual cost you’re running in the background plus a bit of a profit margin. And when it costs $207.40 per month to make these brief videos, I’d be okay with that. It would price out enough users not to undo any of the insufficient climate saving measures we as a species have already implemented.
Just going to drop this wiki link, so people know the precident set with this case is one of the driving causes for our current misery.
I didn’t know that! Thank you for that tidbit. Also wanna take the time to say I feel I derived more satisfaction learning of the source than I lost from the bummer.
That’s the same thing that keeps me going at least lol
The general public won’t have access to it. They are locking it down more and more.
Governments, corps, the elite will have access though. That seems worse than open access to me.
Embrace this shit because the fascists 100% are. Use it, learn its limitations. Make sure you keep people informed about it.
Am I the only one who can’t stand the editing / presentation here? He gave me a migraine in less than 60 seconds.
It’s just the old school vlogger editing style. Jump cuts, jump cuts, and more jump cuts
It’s a bit excessive for my taste as well. Traditionally if you felt the need to cut this much just to make the sentence come out the way you want, you’d just do another take instead of making this many cuts in post. Over-cutting of spacing also makes the pacing a bit too “word-vomit” rather than “polished” imo.
I imagine this is more normalized in stereotypically “zoomer” presentation of video content, but it might also just be this guy (or their editor’s) style.
Yah, same here – thanks!
Hank’s videos are like that. I get stressed watching his scishow stuff too, but deal with it because the content is really interesting.
Yeah, for the part I could watch, it sounded interesting.
It feels quite annoying to me.
He’s cutting out the annoying filler words “um” “uh” etc and useless quiet/dead air. So yes you are the only one.
Filler words makes a piece feel more human. Ironically cutting out human tics in favour of a more sterlised presentation yet criticising AI, how ironic.
Ok, lol, thanks for confirming
I’m not a fan either. It’s especially weird to me since SciShow (his main channel I guess) has the complete opposite style.
I have never once asked why something should exist. It’s the human will to make new cool things, and in 5y this model will train on your refrigerator, so you aren’t stopping it. These videos complain about the problems of exponentially increasing technology rather than look towards solutions, like anti capitalist organizing. Like, ok, this destroys copyright and IP: guess what copyright and IP is DUMB CAPITALIST NONSENSE. Let’s overthrow it. These people are complaining about companies selling access to these models under cost: that’s because this can never make a profit! If you don’t need labor, cost goes to 0. This will spur unemployment and harm, which will spur worker participation and class warfare.
And the environmental cost is still lower than meat.
To me all the complaining is the sweet voice of class consciousness.
And the environmental cost is still lower than meat.
It’s not meat.
It’s cars and planes. We know this because we observed a drastic drop in air pollution in both 2008 (following the financial crash) and March 2020 that can be attributed to basically the entire planet no longer commuting and traveling.
That said, LLM’s water and carbon footprints are likely going to be far more devastating than meat consumption, not that it’ll matter. Everyone is still going to vote Democrat and Republican and things will steadily continue to get worse.
It’s not meat.
It’s cars and planes. We know this because we observed a drastic drop in air pollution in both 2008 (following the financial crash) and March 2020 that can be attributed to basically the entire planet no longer commuting and traveling.
It’s both, and a handful of other industries. The tiny blip of dropped emissions during covid did absolutely fucking nothing to help air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions. It’s just feel-good bullshit the media spread around. Travel is a significant portion of ghg emissions, very comparable in impact to meat production.
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And the environmental cost is still lower than meat.
Meat, whether you think it’s moral or ethical or not, serves a need. People need to eat. People don’t need AI slop.
It’s kind of like saying, “Well yeah I leave this 50kw diesel generator running 24/7. It’s way less environmentally damaging than meat. No, I’m not using the power it generates for any real purpose, but who cares, it’s environmentally friendly!”
I don’t think meat is unethical, nor do I think AI is unethical. Both serve a purpose (slop doesn’t serve a purpose but slop exists because we are doing ai research and expansion which very much serves a long term purpose). I’m just trying to put AI water and power use into perspective.
People don’t need to eat meat 2 times a day 7 days a week.
People don’t need AI slop at all. At least meat provides sustenance.
Yes but think of the shareholders
