Hi, I am not exactly sure how best to frame this, but recent events have got me wondering where exactly Framework, as a company, stands with regards to human rights and equality. If I understand correctly (and please do correct me if I am wrong), it seems like Framework has started sponsoring Hyprland: So I presume this is fact: Framework, as a company, has decided to sponsor a Wayland compositor who is well known to be led as a rather “toxic and hateful community”. Separately, but on the ...

Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

    • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      114·
      28 days ago

      It is is you support lemmy’s development which for a foss platform its expected users do

      • priapus@piefed.socialEnglish
        102·
        28 days ago

        But not required. If I do not morally support the developer I can instead choose to financially support individual instances, or other projects like Piefed or mbin.

        My point here is that comparing this situation to using Lemmy is a bad comparison. Supporting Framework is pretty much exclusively via financial support, the same is not true for Lemmy.

        • Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.worldEnglish
          53·
          28 days ago

          Doesn’t seem clear cut at all after reading the whole thread. You support one thing who’s creator has questionable views but not the other. The main difference seems to be that you like one and not the other.

          • priapus@piefed.socialEnglish
            2·
            27 days ago

            What doesn’t seem clear-cut? My only point here was that using Lemmy does not directly fund the creator of it.

            You support one thing who’s creator has questionable views but not the other. The main difference seems to be that you like one and not the other.

            You’re making assumptions about me. I use Piefed, not Lemmy. I also do not believe that this situation is enough for me to not support Framework. All I’m saying here is that supporting Framework is for the most part direct financial support, while one can easily support the Lemmy as a whole, without providing financial support to the creator with questionable views.

            I don’t care to debate about whether this makes supporting Lemmy better or worse than supporting Framework. I only on what I feel is an oversight in the comparison made by the comment I originally replied to.

    • amorpheus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      33·
      27 days ago

      Using lemmy increases its popularity which in turn leads to more donations or other benefits.

      • priapus@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        27 days ago

        Thats a valid point, but I still feel its a less direct form of support, which was my point. I dont feel that it is the same as directly financially supporting a project you morally disagree with.