Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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        Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don’t tell them their actions are irredeemable and they’ve lost you for life.

        If you tell them you’ll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You’re essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don’t mind them bending the knee.

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          Yes, being vocal and public your cancelation/leaving is really important to make clear why this is happening.

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        Well, both, really.

        Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.

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          If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter

          But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products

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              I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down

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                Correct.

                One guy standing tall is cute and all but that’d not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message

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              Oh that’s fantastic.

              Can you please tell me you’re entirely ethical smartphone setup?

              Obviously you won’t have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google’s OS is inherently unethical.

              Are you’re using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using?

              And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch?

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                Can you please tell me you’re entirely ethical smartphone setup?

                A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it

                au contrair, that’s still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek!

                Yeah, and I didn’t pay for it. I don’t use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn’t profit and I don’t use any of their services, so, they don’t continue to.

                Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I’m good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology.

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                Your argument seems to be “all things that aren’t perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any.” This is obviously silly. We’re talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing.

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                Cause using AOSP benefits Google’s ability to limit their app restrictions.

                Tell me you don’t understand open source without telling me you don’t understand it…

                You give off some real “Well achkshuslly” enlightened centrist vibes here.

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                  Using Google products is implicit support for Google.

                  Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context.

                  So tell me you didn’t actually read the comment thread without telling me.

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                Oh no, we can’t have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢

                I guess I’ll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn’t respect any of my rights…

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                  How about you just don’t act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone.

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                    No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like “company Y is worse”.

                    Which is absurd because X and Y don’t care about any of you.

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        If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it.

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          How does one prepare for it without sitting around being a bored luddite all day? Idk how to tell you this, but the rot is total, and Americans simply aren’t willing to meet the moment

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            Can you not have fun without big tech platforms? There is so much stuff out there to do. So many hobbies both digital and physical to entertain yourself with.

            For tech things there is the open source nerds that continue to make it possible to remove the influence of our tech overlords from our lives while still making use of the hardware we already have.

            For climate change there are local groups in many cities (at least in Germany) with the specific idea of creating future proof communities that will survive supply chain collapse for food, water, electricity, etc.

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      How much “feedback” do you think it will take to make them contradict the vindictive sitting President? Apple doesn’t care about what you think about this because it’s not for you.

      You know what you can do? Stop giving them money. Write them an email from your iCloud account, then delete said account. Cancel any subscriptions (this seemed to be effective against Disney).

      The fed gov holds too much power. You have to show them that Americans, collectively, have more power to affect their bottom line than the Pres, and (most importantly) are willing to exercise it.

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        Apple fans are not that type of person, though. They’re better than everyone else, and so is their owning entity! They can do no wrong, this app was obviously guilty of doxxing cops …

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          Well I was going to pretend not to be a pessimist but realistically, no group of people is “that type of person”, which is why we’re all so helpless. People are addicted to their favorite platforms and there’s nothing you or the platforms can do to make them leave.

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      They’re based in the USA, they have to work with the government or they’ll be targeted/taken over/shut down, surely?

      They could try to escape the USA and move all their operations to Europe, but I think they’re just going to stick where they are and do whatever the fascists want them to do. So long as they’re getting paid why should they care?

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        It would be better for the economy to commit suicide than to comply, and we as consumers have the power to make them if only we organized

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        They had no problem standing up to the FBI when they knew the Constitution still worked. It’s not bravery when it doesn’t cost you anything and there’s nothing to be afraid of. But now things are different and regular every day people don’t want to say it out. The implications make them uncomfortable.

        Apple’s market share outside of the US is pretty pitiful. Even with their piles of money, it would hurt.