Apple users bash new iPhone 15: ‘Innovation died with Steve Jobs’::Smart phone fans are griping about Apple’s new devices since the arguably anti-climactic announcement of the forthcoming iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus on Tuesday.

  • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Steve Jobs didn’t innovate a thing in his life. Apple has always been stealing tech and pretending that they created it.

    Now with this new version, they don’t even have much anything to steal. At best, they pretended that the EU didn’t force them to adopt USB 3 and boast how much faster it is than Lightning port.

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      Actually the EU only forced them to adopt USB C. Only their ‘Pro’ model actually has USB 3. Imagine having to pay a premium for the luxury of a 15 year old technology

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        And they still don’t have PD on the pro.

        My guess is that they’ll be going portless soon, and don’t want users freaking out that they can’t change their phones as quickly, so they’re intentionally nerfing the charge speeds on USB C.

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          They have to have USB power delivery by the EU law but only as fast as the device supports at all. So if they only have 20W charging at all that’s legal.

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          With how much they’re investing in video and how large their camera/film user base is, they will not go portless.

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        Apple just wants to get rid of low income people having an iphone.

        Iphones whole thing has always been to be a luxury brand, that only rich people can afford.

      • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world
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        A 15 year old technology pretty much every other phone uses now. A technology used in pretty much every modern laptop - especially Apple’s own - and many desktops.

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      Did Jobs build teams that invented the GUI, the cellphone, multitouch gestures, or mobile web browsing? No, he didn’t. But he built teams that productized those things better than anyone else before them, and that team forever changed our expectations for computing.

      To be an innovative composer you don’t have to invent new instruments, scales, time signatures, etc. You have to know how to arrange existing stuff in new ways.

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        Yep, I am not a Jobs fan boy at all but he definitely had a clear goal and required people to get the product right before shipping it, to the extent to which that was possible for the tech at the time.

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      Except that their implementation of USB-C will be way slower than the lightning port.

      Edit: I’ve been schooled.

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        The lightning port is USB 2. The 15 is USB 2, powered by the same USB 2 chipset as the 14 pro. The only difference is the connector not the cables or encoding.

        The 15 pro has USB 3, which is faster than the lighting port ever was.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Remember when they stole MacOS from…

        XWindows? Was that what you were going to say?

        Yeah remember when they stole the click wheel concept from…

        Wow, you are really digging the bottom of the barrel…

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        Apple was literally founded and initially successful off Steve jobs monetizing Woz’s genius. It is not at all a stretch to claim Steve Jobs never innovated a thing.

        In modern apple, of course they are far more likely to buy innovative technologies and fund development or copy competitors. Why would they spend money funding R&D when they can more cheaply buy out worthwhile concepts?

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        Coincidentally, USB C. Just not on their mobile devices.

        They were some of the first to ship a laptop with USB C, and they went balls out.

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          No coincidence, Apple helped design USB-C. They have been slowly transitioning for years but everyone thinks the EU “made” them switch.

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            USBC has been around for years now, so why not make the switch before they’re legally required to, if not to keep users on proprietary cables for just a little longer?

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              USC-C spec was finalized about two years after they made the switch to Lightning. The first smartphone with USB-C came 6 months after that finalization. Apple wanted to get rid the 30 pin and felt the uncertainty around USB-C timeline was too high, so they rolled their own.

              If they switched to USB-C for phones just 2-3 years after Lightning it would’ve been a terrible experience for iPhone users.

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                I remember the outrage around moving to lightning. Doing it again so soon after for a connector that’s (slightly) more fragile and provided no real benefit would have seriously hurt sales.

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                  i just had a memory show up in my facebook timeline with a comparison of the number of ports Apple had used on the iPhone and how many Samsung had used. samsung had used something like a dozen in the same timeframe of about 5 years but everyone was pissed that the 30 pin was going away. and on top of that, lightning was introduced as ‘a port for a decade’ which, incidentally, it’s been in use for… 10 years.

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        Apparently the Pro version has USB 3.0. Still mediocre compared to new Android phones (not just the flagships) that are pushing Thunderbolt.

        Hooking up your android phone to an ultrawide with built-in dock is still funny, but not very useful.

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        There is no such thing as ‘lightning speed’. It’s just a connector, not a data communication standard. The non-pro iPhone 15 uses the same SoC as last year’s pro models, which happens to have an USB 2.0 controller. The new SoC used in the 15 Pro models have a 10 gbit USB 3.0 controller on board.

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          “Still limited to the same speed of the model using the lightning connector” did not have the same ring to it.

          Did not know they finally moved to a usb3 chipset on the pro when I commented, good to hear.