• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    This is not just an aircraft carrier. For starters, this is the USS Gerald Ford, a Gerald R. Ford-class carrier, the latest shit. A US aircraft carrier is a monstrous group of war machines, not a single boat (though it’s the size and population of a small town). We got 11 aircraft carriers in total, to cover planet Earth.

    For context, US aircraft carriers are sent to regions to project force. “We can ruin you if you fuck around and we don’t have to be in sight of land to do so. Also, good luck fending us off, because you can’t.” Short of a boomer (nuclear sub which you’ll never hear about) an aircraft carrier group is the deadliest thing mankind has ever deployed.

    So, we’re sending nearly 1/10th of our global naval warfighting machine, the very tip of the spear, to <checks notes> Venezuela?!

    I have no snarky comment or bullshit prediction here. I cannot imagine WTF is going on except to guess… what? A major escalation against… who? And why? There’s something going on here that’s not going to be obvious until it kicks off.

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    Does anyone realize how much cocaine gets imported into the US everyday?

    This administration has done exactly zero to stymie it. Blowing up a few random boats of accused drug dealers amounts to murder and has to be the biggest clown shows ever.

    What is even worse is cocaine isn’t the drug killing Americans. If you were really trying to fix things you would be shutting down chemical plants in China.

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      Big Pharmacy in the US as well as the death panels ran by US Health Insurance Corporations are responsible for killing more Americans than whatever chemical plants in China are doing.

      But hey let’s use the Chinese as a scapegoat once the brown folks get rounded up.

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        For sure the US is horrible with its healthcare and their chemical companies that have polluted the whole world. We can agree on that.

        But when it comes to drugs killing people from overdoses, which is what the admin was arguing, it is fentanyl. This comes from China. Note I said we should be shutting these down not blowing them up.

        I know people personally that have died from fentanyl, so I am not trying to mince words here. This is also just harm reduction because you can’t really stop this. If China agrees to crack down what is to say another country won’t pick up the slack.

        This points to the need for cooperation not competition. The US promoting this pigheaded, imperialistic, and bombastic foreign policy is bad for everyone.

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          China supplies precursor chemicals (NPP, ANPP) to Mexico where the Sinaloa Cartel and others synthesize the finished product. Most of it is shipped across the southern US border. It’s disingenuous to say China is supplying Fentanyl to the USA - like supplying fertilizer is supplying explosives. The so-called “war on drugs” has demonstrably failed. And the definition of stupid is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Perhaps dealing with why people feel the need to use drugs in the first place would be more successful?

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            Yes, I think that a lot of drug use comes from socioeconomic pressure. There is also a lot we can do with harm reduction besides just trying to decrease the supply.

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          This is also just harm reduction because you can’t really stop this. If China agrees to crack down what is to say another country won’t pick up the slack.

          This is why we should be going after the root of the problem… Why are people wanting to do drugs in the first place? Life sucks? They have little to no opportunity to improve their quality of life? They have physical or mental health issues that aren’t being treated properly? Poor understanding of the risks involved? None of this shit is solved by the war on drugs. Fix these social issues and the demand for mind altering substances will plummet. If I’m wrong, well we’ve done a lot of good anyway and at least we’re not destroying lives over what people choose to put in their bodies.

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      I heard on TV your muppet VP say something about “300 thousand Americans dead from drugs a year” to justify this shit and one word immediately came to my mind:

      • Oxycodone

      The actions of this American Administration have nothing at all to do with protecting the potential victims of drugs.

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      from a recent article, since trump pulled the CBP off the borders, the cocaine has been being imported unabated, to the point the prices halved somewhat.

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      the US everyday

      ‘Everyday’ means ‘unremarkable’ or ‘mundane’ and should precede the object as per adjective order. ‘Every day’ means ‘daily’.

      What part of the US is the Unremarkable US? The middle-South?

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        I work with people in recovery, I am acutely aware that people choose to do drugs. If you speak with a someone who has a substance use disorder they will often explain it is their right to do what they want with their body.

        I am not hurting anyone is something they will typically say. I have also found quite a few people on Lemmy that share this sentiment as well. Obviously this is a complex topic.

        To answer you, no I do not blame everyone else. I do recognize that environment, opportunity, and healthcare play a huge role in this equation.

        If you have not had the chance, look up the Rat Park Experiment. I think it highlights the concept that it is disconnection and a lack of opportunity that causes most addiction.

        https://youtube.com/shorts/XVFGEDs95MI

        https://www.usersnews.com.au/home/2017/4/10/the-view-from-rat-park

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          I appreciate your well thought out response to my rashly made comment. Also I looked through some rat park comics and I agree with their and your sentiments. Addiction is complex, and placing all the blame of addiction on the person is not just incorrect, but cruel and unhelpful. The thought process behind my comment was this: if environment, opportunity, and healthcare (also access to resources and just general compassion) are the ways to remedy addiction, than addressing drug problems by killing (alleged) drug traffickers or starting a trade war with china is completely off base. An addict WILL find their fix. I can also empathize with the need to ‘turn off the faucet’ of drugs in order to address the crisis levels of addiction in certain places, but to remove the drugs without also providing massive care\aid\resources is not going to solve the problem.

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      Yeah, Venezuela, I think they have oil or something and need some freedom™ forcefully traded to them for it.

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    Can’t the rest of the world just start boycotting trade with the US already? BRICS is a fine start but it needs to speed up and stop giving them any more support if they’re turning from the world’s police to its bully.

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    This is a frankly absurd and comical waste of resources in an environment that absolutely does not call for the deployment of the newest, most advanced, and most expensive naval asset in the USN inventory.

    In no universe is it reasonable to deploy the Ford (or really any of our CVNs) to the Caribbean for combat operations. For disaster recovery, sure - you can probably hook up the reactor output to land lines in a pinch, if some hurricane came and wrecked a major city down there, and a stopgap power supply was needed. But for pretty much anything combat related, the absolute maximum of a reasonable naval asset to stick there would be an LHA/LHD - that is, a “landing ship” whose primary job in terms of aviation is to host a bunch of helicopters and a small handful of F-35Bs. As well as a bunch of smaller boats that could be used for, you know, patrol and boarding.

    It’s so fucking embarrassing, on so many levels, for so many reasons - the humanitarian aspect is just the first-order outrage. There’s multiple layers of rank idiocy.

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      This is a frankly absurd and comical waste of resources in an environment that absolutely does not call for the deployment of the newest, most advanced, and most expensive naval asset in the USN inventory.

      1. all that gear is going to go bad
      2. it worked for Israel

      I think that second point is very important, as I think violence has its own overton window and Israel and Russia have seriously pushed it with each of their respective belligerent invasions; Israel more effectively since Russia seems to have failed almost completely in its goals.

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    Carriers are incredibly vulnerable, which is why they stay in deep water and are always escorted by a carrier group. What are the chances they override the people who know what they’re doing, send JUST the carrier, and we get to see a Venezuelan speed boat full of C4 reduce the US carrier fleet by a 10%?

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    epstein files, protests distraction. conveniently started this right when the protest and Us house seat member was about to get sworn in, before the shutdown. they need something to feed THE MSMs and propaganda channels for thier supporters somehow.

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    Just like China buzzes Taiwan every so often. (Darth Vader theme starts playing).

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    Trump thinks that intimidating the entire world into obeying his orders, or else, is the same thing as Peace, and they’ll happily give him the Peace Prize for it.