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Gates9@sh.itjust.works to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 15 hours ago

Sun unleashes 2 colossal X-class solar flares, knocking out radio signals across the Americas and Pacific

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Sun unleashes 2 colossal X-class solar flares, knocking out radio signals across the Americas and Pacific

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Gates9@sh.itjust.works to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 15 hours ago
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The back-to-back eruptions caused radio blackouts across two hemispheres as the active sunspots turn to face Earth.
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    across two hemispheres

    Is there any point to this distinction? Why not just say “the entire planet”?

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      It was hitting the Americas and the Pacific. And both hemispheres, so north and south alike. That’s because that side of the Earth was facing the sun at that time. I assume the south received the brunt of it due to the axial tilt going into southern summer.

      So it was not the entire planet, just the two hemispheres of North and South and specifically mostly the Americas and the Pacific.

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        So it was only one hemisphere, but instead of being clear and specifying actual locations, their vague description suggests the whole planet was affected. How stupid.

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      Across 4 quadrispheres

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        Across the mono-unisphere

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      Perhaps it did not substantially fill both hemispheres. Or perhaps they are referring to overlapping hemispheres like the north and west.

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    A part of me dreads what would happen if another carrington event happened and another part of me eagerly wants to see what would happen.

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      I’ve read that if things are off and not powered that they wouldn’t be affected. You could kill the power to your house and shut off battery powered items and be okay.

      Maybe I’m wrong though. Also, I’ve read the sun is monitored for such things we would have 10 minutes or so of time to prepare.

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      Right? I’m not a prepper, but I find it’s a lof of fun to plan for this kind of thing. I never actually do, prepare anything, but I make mental notes. Right now the plan would be to get a Faraday cage, shove a microwave motor in there as AFAIK they can be great as generators, then a RPi, a tiny monitor and a downloaded copy of Wikipedia. I’d love to get some Lora devices so that I can give them to friends and family

      • Tangent5280@lemmy.world
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        Pretty sure there are prepper packages available online that is a superset of knowledge bases, things like wikipedia, music, survival guides, guides on agriculture/raw material processing/ hunting / basic engineering etc. (The free ones are better than for-pay grifter packets) precisely for things like this.

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        I’m not sure how well a faraday cage would protect against something like this. Maybe a lot maybe not as much as you’d think.

        Total em shielding would probably be a better option.

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          AFAIK it should protect it. Maybe even from any electromagnetic activity. But once away, I struggle with electronics and electricity

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            I know with radio waves it depends on the frequency and the size of the holes in the cage. Higher frequencies need increasingly smaller holes to prevent radio waves from entering. Around 2mm at 5ghz if what I’ve read is correct.

            I’m guessing the type of material, thickness, etc may play a role too.

            What I don’t know is how much of this, if any, applies to a huge blast of the sun"s toxic ass plasma hitting us in the face.

            I know that microwaves are designed to block up to, iirc, 2.4ghz

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          Probably just use the same microwave and throw the motor inside.

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            Electrical work is one of the many important skills I lack. I am not sure if I could open the microwave, remove the motor, close it again, and guarantee that the cage still works

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    Is that why cell phone connections have been so weak lately?

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      Radio is affected by solar activity because many radio frequencies, especially those used by long-distance or shortwave radio, depend on the Earth’s ionosphere for reflection, which is disrupted by solar flares. Cellular phones, however, use higher frequency bands (UHFVHF) that are not reflected by the ionosphere; instead, they transmit via a line-of-sight connection between the phone and a cell tower, making them much less susceptible to solar interference.

      https://www.taitcommunications.com/en/about-us/news/geomagnetic-storm-impacts-radio-communications-power-grids

      https://www.wmar2news.com/weather/weather-blogs/last-nights-solar-flare-did-not-cause-the-cell-phone-outage

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/02/26/att-cellphone-outage-solar-flares-fact-check/72715063007/

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        Mobile Phones don’t use VHF, only UHF and SHF

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        Our phones really use uhf/vhf? Dang. I’m a ham nerd but my radio knowledge doesn’t really extend beyond those bands.

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          Mmmm, hammmm

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          Mobile phones use UHF and SHF, where GSM is on the lower end of the spectrum (900/1800MHz) and 5G on the higher end. The newest WiFi standard is at 6GHz.

          5G can go as high as 71GHz, just not in mobile phones yet

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          https://wp.technologyreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/january_2016_spectrum_wall_chart_full-cta.png

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        What services might people have noticed being unusable because of this?

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      I dont think so but thats based on my location being in the Affected area and my not noticing any change to my connection.

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    Wish it would knock me out instead

    • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
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      I’ll do it for 10 bucks

      • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
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        Deal. I await your strongest solar flare.

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    Did we know this was coming or was it a surprise?

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      We are in “solar maximum” so heightened activity is expected but we are also not very far in our study and understanding of the sun, and “X-class flares” are fairly unusual.

      https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/heliophysics/nasa-noaa-sun-reaches-maximum-phase-in-11-year-solar-cycle/

      • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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        We should probably shut down any of that book-learnin’ and knowing real facts about the world. Does fElon know about this “waste, fraud, and abuse”?

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      Given this timeline, no, not a surprise

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