• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 hours ago

    Philosophically, yes. One is created with intent, one is created to mimic intent. Human made works can challenge norms and explore entirely new ways of thinking about a subject. AI content is essentially trying to take everything relevant to a given prompt, blend it together, and give you something that meets your expectations.

    Now as far as is it practically the same, that’s where things are going to start getting sticky. If an AI makes a piece of art that resonates with people the same way that a human created piece of art does, those feelings are just as genuine. There is no practical difference. We’re seeing that right now with AI generated music. Just this week an AI country song hit #1 on billboard. The people that enjoy that song enjoy it regardless of how it was made. Personally, I think that country is kind of a low hanging fruit since it has effectively been following the same formula for a couple of decades, but it’s a great proof of concept.

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      Yeah, I think AI optimising commercial music genres is just effectively doing what the corporate music industry has been doing for years anyway. It’s like gamification of the auditory processing system.

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      Disagree slightly, human created content can have intent but doesn’t automatically have it.

      A corporate ad does not have any artistic merit besides grabbing as much attention as possible. Actually creative ads where some thought was put in are the very rare exception.

      The same goes with a lot of pop music today. I cannot speak too much about English language pop but German pop is nothing more than fast food. See the Wikipedia article of Menschen Leben Tanzen Welt.

      Or take a look at video games. How much artistic effort is put into AAA games? Maybe someone spent 40 hours making the lootboxes as satisfying as possible to open but that’s probably where the most thought was put in.

      And movies? Aren’t Disney’s recent “live remakes” of their old, successful animated movies anything but CGI slop? Sure, I admit it takes a lot of effort to make and animate all these models. Just like it takes effort to shit when you’re constipated.


      Honestly, the only thing distinguishing AI from megacorp content is that the latter has more consistency and fewer “mistakes” than the former. The sole intent of both is making money.

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      AI music really caught me off guard. One day I was looking for something very specific to vibe to. I wanted instrumental power metal, like Dragonforce but no vocals. And I found that in Metal Mastery, a YouTube channel. I liked it so much I looked into it more, turns out it’s AI and the guy is very upfront about it and all. But I would have never known if I wasn’t told. There’s also nothing that really fills that niche either, so I still listen to the albums now and then.

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        I still think it’s problematic to be making money off of AI music due to the nature of how the systems are trained. I do think it’s significantly better when people are upfront about it in the way you describe. I have a huge problem with Spotify boosting it on their platform with no mention of the artist being AI anywhere, though.

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      From an article about the song: “AI artists won’t require things that a real human artist will require, and once companies start considering it and looking at bottom lines, I think that’s when artists should rightly be concerned about it,” she added.

      That quote explains all political theatre currently making the rounds. UBI or soylent green - which will win out?

      https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/ai-generated-country-song-topping-billboards-country-digital/story?id=127445549

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        8 hours ago

        In the US? Soylent green all the way. If we had any ability to constrain capitalism from destroying art for profit, AI wouldn’t essentially be a legal IP theft machine.

        We thought it was bad when iheart took over all of the radio stations and the record labels started making bands to sell derivative music to the masses. AI is going to destroy any remaining ability for small artists to make profit off their work. It already has in quite a few spaces.

    • There is no practical difference. We’re seeing that right now with AI generated music.

      Last night, some account spammed multiple communities and they got upvoted and some users replied, apparantly didn’t realize it was a LLM bot (like 20 posts within a few hours, un-human). I also didn’t notice at first glance, now I kinda feel like shit for even responding lmao. 2026 is gonna be even more cooked.

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        Yeah man, were rapidly approaching a point where society is “post-evidence”. Seeing isn’t believing anymore and a very large chunk of our society is built on the idea of proving things with audio/photo/video based evidence. I fear that our systems aren’t protected against the volume and physical accuracy of what’s becoming increasingly arbitrary to generate at home and at scale.

        The legal system has some standards for evidence, but public discourse certainly doesn’t.