• kshade@lemmy.world
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    Explanation: The guy on the right is Linus Sebastian, a tech youtuber running a fairly large media company. I’d characterize their output as being a mixture of news, reviews and Top Gear style fucking around with tech.

    A couple weeks ago he sent Linus Torvalds an e-mail, asking him if he’d like to do some sort of collaboration - mainly because of the name and because he’s a personal hero of his. Torvalds quickly responded, telling him that it would have to be a “there can only be one” type situation, like in Highlander or Mad Max.

    So they shot something where they most are just chatting while building a computer together but did the bit for the intro. The video is not released yet.

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      The entertainment value of LTT is there.

      And also some informational. I don’t care about the drama and don’t think Linus is a saint or shit. The videos are good usually. The rest I don’t bother.

      And the other one is is a genius, almost saint with anger issues and an enormous enrichment for the world community.

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        My problem with LTT is that they have demonstrated for years that quality and accuracy isn’t a priority. They also aren’t experts in tech. The drama stuff is just icing on an already bad image.

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          In your opinion, who is, and is it on a single digit list of people who are for you?

          Seeing lots of downvotes, but no answers. It’s always so easy to point out who isn’t an expert, but people get so insecure when they have to provide counterexamples that aren’t just outliers. I guess people fear themselves.

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            In your opinion, who is, and is it on a single digit list of people who are for you?

            I don’t know what you’re trying to say here, but I’m going to guess you’re asking who is a reliable tech expert. So if that’s your question, here’s my answer:

            For general hardware/server/enterprise stuff: Wendell from L1

            Consumer hardware repair stuff: Louis Rossmann, although he’s been doing less of that for a bit

            Linux stuff: anyone of the Jupiter Broadcasting hosts

            BSD and ZFS: Allen Jude

            More general consumer hardware reviews and stats: Gamers Nexus

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              All of those are streamers, and a single digit list of those (5 of them). I would have liked to see a linux community recognize entire community of experts, but this whole argument seems to be just people taking their favorite streaming personalities and doing a lot of what’s wrong in reality shows with them. If all your experts are streamers, you have a very flawed definition of an expert.

              Thanks for getting your feet wet, though. Louis Rossmann is more of a consumer right’s advocate nowadays, Gamers Nexus and Wendell are more of the same generalists that would compete in LTT’s interest base, and Wendell and the rest have a focus more on the side of *nux and more professional deployments. To me, three out of the five being Linux domained says the issue is less about someone being an expert than what they are expert in, and Louis Rossmann being nudged along with Gamer’s Nexus when he’s sort of out of the domain involved yet him being a key supporting figure along with Gamer’s Nexus criticism in the past hints that his inclusion might be prioritized on that instead. Also, Louis Rossmann is literally trying to get people to avatar Clippy … because lesser evil is an icon of antiAI or some such?

              Not criticizing those streamers, just trying to see where a lot of the drama is coming from and whether my own assumptions on that are justified. A lot of them seem to be from people with more expertise in the Linux community. Linus has been pushing for Linux adoption for people outside of the community for some time now, and because he appeals to that outside community more has generally been more effective at it.

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                All of those are streamers

                Wait, so you want me to list maintainers of projects or something? Someone that isn’t well known?

                I really have no idea what you’re asking for.

                Linus has been pushing for Linux adoption for people outside of the community for some time now

                Wouldn’t know. Don’t care.

                He’s a lying cheating clown. Literally every single video, review, and product recommendation from LTT prior to the Gamers Nexus video about them is null and void. That means tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands (or more), of people made purchasing decisions based on bogus data.

                Then there was the storage server video. That was basically using-a-porcelain-dinner-plate-to-hammer-a-nail levels of “expertise”.

                His opinion literally means nothing to me.

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                  I hear you on the frustration with the errors and the Billet Labs situation; those were legitimate issues. But I think there’s a difference between holding someone accountable and writing them off permanently.

                  The thing is, LMG did take concrete steps after the GN video:

                  • They paused uploads for a week
                  • Established an error-checking team (ECC squad)
                  • Have been building out their lab infrastructure (their PSU testing and articles can be really neat)

                  Are they perfect now? No. But if we don’t acknowledge when people/companies make genuine efforts to improve, what’s the incentive for anyone to try?

                  I’m not saying you have to watch LTT or trust everything they say. But the “his opinion literally means nothing to me” stance feels pretty absolute for a situation where they’ve at least attempted course correction. Most of us have professional screw-ups we’ve learned from. I think the question is whether the response was adequate, not whether mistakes disqualify someone forever.

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                  I really have no idea what you’re asking for.

                  Don’t worry, I think I more or less got a sense of where you are really coming from. That you have no idea what I am asking for is a nail for the impression I got.

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        I don’t watch them much anymore, but imo LTT was always best when they did stuff similar to Top Gear.

        For actual reviews others like Gamers nexus, hardware unboxed, rtings and others imo were always better. What I found frustrating in this regard is that LTT seemingly made a big push into the more serious review space with their labs, but at least from what I can tell that so far hasn’t materialized.

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          Their labs is not really eye catching. They seem to use the numbers on some benchmarks but in the videos it doesn’t make money.

          So I assume labs runs in background for funs sake

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    Linuses takes aren’t always the best, and he can be pretty polarizing. But for fun and relaxation, his videos are good. He often plays the role of the average, non-tech-savvy user—someone who genuinely doesn’t know better. The same goes for his “Linux Experiment.” I think it’s important for Linux to reach more average PC users and gamers

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    Gosh the LMG shills are nauseous.

    “I’m not a fan, I just watch the occasional video but <insert excuses, growing pains etc.>”.

    Proper fan girling, but at least fan girls have courage of conviction.