The only thing that sucks about switching to linux is moving my external NTFS USB drives to my new linux server.
Linux HATES NTFS, hates usb drivers, and hates external drives that aren’t formatted to ext4. fstab doesn’t work for my WD Elements, so i just gave up and shucked the drive and put it inside.
I can’t fit 5 3.5" hard drives in my SFF dell 3070, so i’m stuck on windows right now, but they keep doing random updates the last few weeks and my windows explorer freezes constantly and my computer barely works. So i’m going to have to switch to linux and possibly reformat all 36TB’s to ext4. Not excited about that at all.
So either reformat all my external drives, buy a very expensive NAS with an external SATA port and hope my motherboard recognizes them.
Eh? I’ve never had a problem with reading NTFS drives in linux, including USB sticks and SATA/USB adapters. Are you just wanting to read them or use them as read/write? Write is a bit more tricky, requiring ntfs-3g, but most reasonable distros come with that nowadays.
Read/Write and linux will disconnect them randomly and they show up as a completely different drive. So i tried to permanently mount the UID in fstab, but still didn’t work. Most of the fixes i’ve found online don’t work for my drives.
Interesting. When you say that they show up as a different drive completely, do you mean that their UUIDs change, or that they get mounted at a different point?
Anyway, random disconnection sounds like a hardware issue, maybe a USB brownout, as much as anything else. What’s your connection setup, distro and kernel version?
The mounting point changes. So it may be sd1, then disconnect and show up as sb1 and then i tried to permanently mount through fstab, but still didn’t work. Connection setup? Not sure what you mean by that, but computer is hardwired to the network, external drive was connected via USB 3.0 in several different ports to see if it was a motherboard issue. I am on Cinnamon Mint 22 and i believe kernel 6.14.
The dev entry point changing like that means that it disconnected and then reconnected, which shouldn’t have anything to do with the specific file system on the drive. That really makes it sound like the drive isn’t getting quite enough power, which causes a brown out, which Linux detects as the drive getting unplugged and coming back, which is why it gets a new dev entry.
A look through the usb logs by using something like usbrip would confirm that.
Yeah, you will generally have a better time with exFAT, which is a format both Windows and Linux works with well. All my external drives get formatted as such.
exFAT is great for compatibility but it doesn’t have journaling, so if there’s a power outage while writing to a file, you can expect the file to get corrupted and unusable (which sucks). apart from that, yeah, it’s great.
what i can recommend if you’re working in a big organization or group or sth is to use a network drive, i.e. a drive that’s accessed over the network. you typically don’t have problems there.
I’ think this will be my best bet going forward. I still need to have my windows computer setup for modding, but i’d rather use linux for daily use and torrents.
The only thing that sucks about switching to linux is moving my external NTFS USB drives to my new linux server.
Linux HATES NTFS, hates usb drivers, and hates external drives that aren’t formatted to ext4. fstab doesn’t work for my WD Elements, so i just gave up and shucked the drive and put it inside.
I can’t fit 5 3.5" hard drives in my SFF dell 3070, so i’m stuck on windows right now, but they keep doing random updates the last few weeks and my windows explorer freezes constantly and my computer barely works. So i’m going to have to switch to linux and possibly reformat all 36TB’s to ext4. Not excited about that at all.
So either reformat all my external drives, buy a very expensive NAS with an external SATA port and hope my motherboard recognizes them.
Linux doesn’t really have issues with NTFS, you just need to install the drivers.
My entire server storage is NTFS (except the boot drive) because its migrated from a windows system, but I use linux.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NTFS
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NTFS-3G
yeah i can report i’ve dealt with TB-sized external NTFS-formatted disks for years and never had issues with linux with them :)
Eh? I’ve never had a problem with reading NTFS drives in linux, including USB sticks and SATA/USB adapters. Are you just wanting to read them or use them as read/write? Write is a bit more tricky, requiring ntfs-3g, but most reasonable distros come with that nowadays.
Read/Write and linux will disconnect them randomly and they show up as a completely different drive. So i tried to permanently mount the UID in fstab, but still didn’t work. Most of the fixes i’ve found online don’t work for my drives.
Interesting. When you say that they show up as a different drive completely, do you mean that their UUIDs change, or that they get mounted at a different point?
Anyway, random disconnection sounds like a hardware issue, maybe a USB brownout, as much as anything else. What’s your connection setup, distro and kernel version?
The mounting point changes. So it may be sd1, then disconnect and show up as sb1 and then i tried to permanently mount through fstab, but still didn’t work. Connection setup? Not sure what you mean by that, but computer is hardwired to the network, external drive was connected via USB 3.0 in several different ports to see if it was a motherboard issue. I am on Cinnamon Mint 22 and i believe kernel 6.14.
The dev entry point changing like that means that it disconnected and then reconnected, which shouldn’t have anything to do with the specific file system on the drive. That really makes it sound like the drive isn’t getting quite enough power, which causes a brown out, which Linux detects as the drive getting unplugged and coming back, which is why it gets a new dev entry.
A look through the usb logs by using something like usbrip would confirm that.
Yeah, you will generally have a better time with exFAT, which is a format both Windows and Linux works with well. All my external drives get formatted as such.
exFAT is great for compatibility but it doesn’t have journaling, so if there’s a power outage while writing to a file, you can expect the file to get corrupted and unusable (which sucks). apart from that, yeah, it’s great.
what i can recommend if you’re working in a big organization or group or sth is to use a network drive, i.e. a drive that’s accessed over the network. you typically don’t have problems there.
Is it just my experience but exfat is so much slower on windows than ntfs.
For an external drive? I guess I have never experienced that since external drives are already pretty slow.
Yeah, it was an 860 Evo in an external SSD enclosure. It was like half the speeds of ntfs
I’ think this will be my best bet going forward. I still need to have my windows computer setup for modding, but i’d rather use linux for daily use and torrents.