US army secretary briefs ambassadors at ‘nightmare meeting’ in Kyiv on Friday after talks with Ukrainian leader

US officials have told Nato allies they expect to push president Volodymyr Zelenskyy into agreeing to a peace deal in the coming days, under the threat that if Kyiv does not sign, it will face a much worse deal in future.

The US army secretary, Dan Driscoll, briefed ambassadors from Nato nations at a meeting in Kyiv late on Friday, after talks with Zelenskyy and taking a phone call from the White House. “No deal is perfect, but it must be done sooner rather than later,” he told them, according to one person who was present.

The mood in the room was sombre, with several European ambassadors questioning the content of the deal and the way in which the US had conducted the negotiations with Russia without keeping allies informed.

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      This has been going on since russian empire was not afraid to call itself that. The label changed multiple times, the imperialism did not.

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      Aaaah shit man I forgot how many times they’ve already done that, my bad. Like, remember that time when they signed a sovereignty agreement with Russia in exchange for their nukes post 1991? I remember that, in that they said that, the agreement was that, give up the nukes to Russia, and you won’t be invaded.

      Then they got invaded.

      Twice?

      Am I still off by the count? Because I seem to recall something from the 2nd World War where they starved the country to death but I’m drunk so forgive me if my memory is foggy I’m sure someone will set me straight

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        Not WW2, but in 1930s there was a massive famine caused by Soviet fuckups. One could argue whether it was intentional or mismanagement (or intentional concealment of mismanagement), but either way, a whole lot of people died that didn’t have to.

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          The best way to get the truth is to confidently tell a falsehood online.

          Slava Heroyam.

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              Especially when you’re just a little befuddled and get it mostly right, then a friendly person like you comes along and makes sure all the belts and shoelaces are tied. :)

              Slava.

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          Jesus christ the Trump rabbit hole is so deep we could mine for Uranium down there. It’s more holes than a Caribbean sponge, fuck me. Flood the zone indeed. They know we can’t keep track, because there’s so much of it, before we caught up to his crimes decades ago, he’ll already had a decade of new ones… In fact… Shit.

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            consider trump has been with the soviets since the late 80s, plus since nobody would loan him money since he stiffs banks, so only through DEUTSCHE BANK AND THE russians that were giving him money, and yes his casinos were involved in the laundering too. its also likely russian has the epstein files too, why not, because EPSTEin also deals with other people to blackmail them.

            tha

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              I have been doing a deep dive into Melania’s family origins and I have strong reason to suspect her father was if not directly KGB then most certainly an informer or asset. I believe she was recruited and assigned into a pool of women whose job it was to get in the circles of such people as Epstein and the likes, in order to latch on to potential targets over a long period of time.

              I mean it’s basic cold war stuff, I don’t know why people pretend like the cold war ended at all.

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                funny its epstein advising putin how to manipulate TRUMP acting a middleman for MOSSAD, kinda make sense hes always visibly shaken everytime he has meet putin after a certain defeat.