What if religion was separated from government, and all people were treated equally under secular law, as is the case in every advanced country where even non-cis-males are allowed to read freely and have a complex pluralistic civilization ?
IOW what if all the Sky Daddy people fucked off with their cosplay and let the adults manage things?
It’s a bit more complicated than that. People like him have traditionally played off of religion heavily while not being firm believers themselves. I think it stands to reason that the religion is a means to an end, which in Israel’s case amplifies their main defense, which is, “If you don’t like our ethnostate the you don’t like Jews.” Obviously ridiculous to most leftists, but liberals are more amenable to identity politics.
Is canada not secular? Why did Carney said he want a zionist palestine, always talk about israel right to defend itself, lying about stopping selling weapons to it and pretending to want a two state solution?
Carney, like most Canadians wants peace. Not the eradication of Palestinians, nor the eradication of Israelis. Canada can support a two party solution, and still support those ‘parties’ - that’s actually very consistent.
You are either too naive or just pretending like Carney . He is lying about stopping selling weapons, he did nothing against the idf soldiers talking in a Canadian university and the selling of occupied land in Synagogues
I don’t know about those thing. But I can see how he might lie about selling weapons. Canada always walks that tightrope - trying to advocate for peace, but having a significant military equipment industry. Right now Canada is in a very tough position economically with the U.S. shitting on it. It needs to do everything it can to improve international trade. But I don’t like it if he lied.
I can think of another one.
What if religion was separated from government, and all people were treated equally under secular law, as is the case in every advanced country where even non-cis-males are allowed to read freely and have a complex pluralistic civilization ?
IOW what if all the Sky Daddy people fucked off with their cosplay and let the adults manage things?
Ok great. So now Israel is just committing a secular genocide without the veneer of religion. I don’t see that that’s better.
What an uninformed, specious thing to say. I almost suspect trolling
Are you seriously suggesting Bibi’s Likud, or its partners Shas and Mafdal are … secular ?!?
It’s a bit more complicated than that. People like him have traditionally played off of religion heavily while not being firm believers themselves. I think it stands to reason that the religion is a means to an end, which in Israel’s case amplifies their main defense, which is, “If you don’t like our ethnostate the you don’t like Jews.” Obviously ridiculous to most leftists, but liberals are more amenable to identity politics.
Yes that’s an integral part of “religion”
Is canada not secular? Why did Carney said he want a zionist palestine, always talk about israel right to defend itself, lying about stopping selling weapons to it and pretending to want a two state solution?
Carney, like most Canadians wants peace. Not the eradication of Palestinians, nor the eradication of Israelis. Canada can support a two party solution, and still support those ‘parties’ - that’s actually very consistent.
You are either too naive or just pretending like Carney . He is lying about stopping selling weapons, he did nothing against the idf soldiers talking in a Canadian university and the selling of occupied land in Synagogues
I don’t know about those thing. But I can see how he might lie about selling weapons. Canada always walks that tightrope - trying to advocate for peace, but having a significant military equipment industry. Right now Canada is in a very tough position economically with the U.S. shitting on it. It needs to do everything it can to improve international trade. But I don’t like it if he lied.
We don’t use that excuse when we talk about the countries buying oil from Russia when they are invading Ukraine with certain support from the USA
Well, they do seem to be excused for that, it seems. Europe is buying Russian gas. Because they need to so their economy keeps going.
No, but Ben Gurion absolutely was.
WhenxSecular countries are supporting the terrorist state of Israel you know that it is not about religion
US support if Israel is arguably very much driven by religion as much as geopolitics
It’s typical imperialism and western neocolonial mentality
profit and hegemony. not religion.
It’s definitely the excuse they use to justify it.
It’s just surprising how many people fall for it, including those critical of it.
know what a state without religion looks like? palestine.
Again little to do with religion its colonialism dummy.
Uh… The Nakba was committed by secular atheists. Stop trying to pin this on religion.