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    To me, this is a very strange take. As a Pixelfed user I absolutely don’t expect to see text posts on there. It’s very clearly a platform for sharing images.

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    Can’t wait for the follow up post decrying PeerTube for only allowing videos, or Bookwrym for only allowing book reviews. Just because it’s ActivityPub doesn’t mean it has to be a Twitter timeline.

    Once a major actor in a decentralised network starts to mess with the protocol, there are only two possible output: either that actor lose steam or that actor becomes dominant enough to impose its own vision of the protocol. In fact, there’s a third option: the whole protocol becomes irrelevant because nobody trust it anymore.

    You mean like Mastodon? Where’s the angry diatribe about Mastodon not allowing posts to have more than 4 pictures despite other platforms allowing more (Pixelfed allows up to 20 for example)?

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    This article’s core argument seems to be that Pixelfed is violating the ActivityPub protocol by not displaying posts that do not contain images. That’s just not true at all. I’m interested to know where the protocol ever has such a requirement.

    The principle behind a communication protocol is to create trust that messages are transmitted.

    And they have been transmitted. They’ve been filtered out after transmission, but the protocol did its job.

    If a message is not delivered, the sender should be notified.

    Perhaps. But that’s not in the spec. There’s no obligation to notify iirc that a post got filtered out on the target instance.

    Even if Pixelfed sent Reject(Note) back for every post without an image, would Mastodon even display that to the user anywhere? Would most users want to see that for every post not containing an image multiplied by every Pixelfed instance it got federated to? I’d personally interpret that as spam.

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      If that guy was right there wouldn’t be defederation and many defederation are not announced

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      You sly dog you made me open my network tab to see if there actually was an image there! (there is, it was just being blocked because of my uBO setting for fetching remotes).

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      So many Fediverse mascots I don’t recognize! Glad to see there are so many more clients than I knew of

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    I don’t think every Fediverse platform needs to support every type of post, and I especially don’t think it’s an impending catastrophe if they don’t. In fact I think it’s better to specialize. Even though Mbin supports microblogging, I prefer using this account solely for threads and a separate Pleroma account for microblogging.

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    I remember reading that Loops (? - may be wrong about which one) does the same thing, only displaying statuses with videos in them. I have not, so far, seen anyone claim that that is a bad thing, and frankly don’t agree that it is. If we can’t do that, then we can never have specialized platforms built on ActivityPub, e.g. platforms only for videos or for photos, etc., and that would severely limit what we can do with it.

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    Would you settle for a mail provider which silently drop all emails you receive if they contain the letter “P”?

    Yes, if the mail provider is advertising the fact that they are dropping everything containing “P” AND if I’m currently not in the mood to read anything containing “P” AND if there are enough good alternative mail providers that do show me things containing “P”.

    What a weird take.

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      And if it didn’t tell you and you had to find out via an article?

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        Then this would be pretty shitty.

        However, pixelfed is very straightforward about the fact that the focus is on image posts and even if they would not advertise that fact you should realize in less than five minutes of using it that all the posts you see are image posts.

        Additionally there are enough apps out there that show all content (I use the default mastodon app to see image posts as well as text posts, etc.). If this is what you want just choose that app.

        And if somebody makes an app that only shows text posts then this would be great for people who only want to see text posts. I really don’t get the authors problem.

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    Does this person not understand how media specific sites work? If you want a mixed media website, there are plenty out there on the fediverse. Saying every site should host every media type gives users less options, not more.

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    The writing in this article is absolutely terrible. It needs some serious clean-up before the message isn’t impaired by the medium.

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      I feel it is english as 2nd language or a poor translation. It still gets the point across.

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    I’ve been on Pixelfed for a long while and never did I ever think “If I follow someone, I want to see their text-only posts.” Why? Because it’s an image sharing platform. It’s specifically designed to show images and that’s fine with me.

    I feel like this article is trying to stir up some controversy where there isn’t any.

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    Expecting an photo centric app to display text only post is really ridculous. What’s thr point of making pixelfed just another mastodon type app. With the same logic , why not complaining about mastodon only allowing micro blogging short text?

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      Well, Mastodon will show everything in the feed, no matter if it’s a video, a short blog, a long blog, a picture, a podcast, whatever. Mastodon is (primarily) microblogging in terms of output, but an everything platform with a chronological feed in terms of input.

      This is where this user seems to get confused - they expect everything on the fediverse to display every type of content, just like Mastodon strives to do. Which is, as you said, ridiculous. If PixelFed was to display audio content and Funkwhale was to display pictures, what would be the point of these services in the first place? If they want everything to be Mastodon, why don’t they just stick to Mastodon? Maybe Pixelfed users have no interest in reading their dumb blog posts?

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        Well, Mastodon will show everything in the feed, no matter if it’s a video, a short blog, a** long blog**, a picture, a podcast, whatever.

        Doesn’t the long blog simply got truncated to 500 characters and link you to the original content? Which is very not user friendly

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          Not necessarily, no - it depends on how it is federated, and I believe the settings of the Mastodon instance. For example @blog@shkspr.mobi federates blog posts in full length, while @feed@404media.co based on Ghost only gives a lead paragraph.

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              Terence Eden just wants as many people as possible to read what he writes with as much ease as possible, so he federates the full content. 404 Media wants people to visit their site, and some of the content is behind a paywall, so they keep the content on site. Different needs. Not very complicated.

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    The Fediverse has plenty of problems but…this ain’t it.

    A bigger problem would be the inevitable outcome of what happened with Instagram; people just post pictures of text to get more reach (and probably also to circumvent Mastodon’s stupid character limits).

    It’s a stupid and arbitrary limitation, but I digress.

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      It’s totally a problem: If I take a look at my Mastodon account from Pixelfed, there are a lot of screenshots shown and some other random images. Which totally does make sense as I do post stuff like that on Mastodon and screenshots totally make sense there. But if you take them to the center of the stage into a photocentric app, that really does look like shit

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        I guess the consequence of this is that you won’t have many followers on Pixelfed.

        Occasionally photographers on Mastodon I follow from Pixelfed will post things I don’t care much about, but at least I get to see their pictures without having to see their text posts in which I have little to no interest.

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    I think OP has a valid point - it’s not about experienced users, but newcomers to the fediverse, who may think they are following an account, when actually they only see a small part of it - there could be some indication of what’s missing.

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      No it doesn’t. Just like someone don’t expect to see images on tiktok or long form text on x. Nobody would expect to see text only posts on Pixelfed

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        It’s well known that each person has to have a different account for each of those big-tech services. Whereas in the fediverse, the original idea was that one account can traverse multiple services. The problem as the OP explains, is that it may seem you are following your friend’s account, whereas actually you might see just a small fraction of it, and not be aware that there is more.

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          Then he just have to use mastodon which support fetching all posts from pixelfed. People are joining the fediverse for different reasons some for privacy, some for less censorship etc. This guy want to force text content on everybody which is rediculous.

          I don’t want to see text only if I want to see images. I don’t want to see mastodon posts on lemmy with ton of hashtags when lemmy do not support them.

          There is another better solution which is instead of forcing all type of content on people you can have a client that support all the main fediverse platform

          Pixelfed grew to begin with because instagram was forced videos on people and now the authornwant to force text on people

          What would be really confusing is two friends being on different instance then the two instances defederate