Here we go again westerpropaganda vs russian propaganda.
another day, another banger
By leaving Ukraine right? Thats the only logical conclusion I can think of.
Edit: holy hot heck did my block list just grow today.
If Russia seems to be acting illogically to you, perhaps the problem isn’t with Russia but with your understanding of this war and Russia’s actual goals.
calling what goes on inside that head of yours thinking is very generous
Edit: holy hot heck did my block list just grow today.
enjoy your echo chamber
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Who’s winning the war?
The good guys.
I don’t understand what you think is logical about that
Because Russia has no reason to be invading neighbouring countries?
Idk just a thought. Not sure why we reward the aggressors. Remember that time the Russian backed separatists who totally weren’t just Russian military shot down that airliner?
Because Russia has no reason to be invading neighbouring countries?
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
- Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
- Internationalist 360°, 2022–2024: History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
- NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
NATO expansion:
- George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
- Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
- Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
- Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
- Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine
NATO in general:- The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
- Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
- Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
Especially with new leadership.
Zelensky was a comedian groomed by oligarchs. He played a president on TV and then ran for president on TV. This was planned out in advance. Zelensky has never been in control because he was an actor in way over his head, beholden to US comprador oligarchs, and his life is openly threatened by high-level Banderite fascists should he get out of line. And he’s quite wealthy now, an oligarch in his own right. He’s in no way a “servant of the people;” that’s an act played by an actor.
I am genuinely shocked at liberals inability to understand the difference between is and ought
Expand on this plz
I suspect that one would have better luck explaining this to a squirrel on meth.
Maybe she’ll add this to her list, “Reviews of my account.”
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No reason
Oh, of course. This all just happened for no reason, contravening all laws of cause and effect. History began in February 2022.
Reward the aggressor
Who’s rewarding anyone? They’ve won the war all by themselves. This is how war works, not some kindergarten where you can put countries in timeout. To think that acknowledging objective reality is somehow “rewarding” anyone is some real “punish the unbelievers” type shit.
Real life is not marvel comic book that the “good guys” wins over the “bad guys”.
Russia is winning and the logical conclusion is definitely not giving up at the finishing line and turn back. Do you know what logical means?
It’s not a comic book, it’s international relations. You know what would help russias relations? Getting the fuck out of Ukraine.
The logical conclusion is Russia fucks off and leaves other countries alone.
you keep using this word ‘logical’ I don’t think it means what you think it means
“everyone is twelve” theory of politics continues to be validated, because that is a take a 12 year old would have
Please expand on what you mean by this
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Reality will not follow your delusions.
Oh so we’re okay with Russia being a bully?
Please, for the love of God, learn the difference between is and ought
Obviously I need you to expand in more detail here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is–ought_problem
Russia is doing what it’s doing, regardless of what you, BiaB, or anyone else thinks it ought to be doing.
If China had stepped in to stop Israel’s genocide, we would be having this exact conversation about China.
No it wouldn’t. Don’t be an idiot.
Yes we would, and your dumbass would be screaming about it at the top of your lungs because reddit told you.
Look at how you’re approaching the Ukraine war. You’ve shown that you know nothing about what was occuring pre-Feb 2022 and are adamant that everyone else that’s trying to tell you about it in good faith is a Russian asset. To you, history started on Feb 2022; and anyone that tries to tell you otherwise for the sake of “nuance” and “context” and other frilly fuckass bullshit is a Russian asset personally getting paid by Putin himself.
Not only do you know absolutely nothing, but you have zero intention to critically engage others because of your arrogance. You won’t learn a single thing and you are adamant about not learning a single thing. That kind of behavior will absolutely not disappear in a hypothetical situation where China directly intervenes to end the genocide.
Not only do you know absolutely nothing
Knowing nothing would an improvement, but instead she knows things that just ain’t so.
Right. Little green men never happened. Gotcha.
We would absolutely be hearing rhetoric about “Antisemetic Chinese imperialism” blasted at us from every angle, quit being willfully naive.
It doesn’t matter if Russia is a bully or not. Marching off of Ukraine is not a logical conclusion, it will not happen.
Tell me why it isn’t logical
Jesus Christ I swear Westerners are fed through a tube.
Go on
Are you literally 12?
Symping for autocrats are we? How very Marxist-Leninist Edit: * /s *
😂 how’s that 3 day special military operation going.
The plan never was ‘3 days’, that was an estimate that came from U.S General Mark Milley.
I guess a broken clock is right twice a day eh?
Then why did they state that at the beginning?
They didn’t
