• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    Lol is that the real logo? So terminally cringe

    I wonder how it stacks up versus those waymo cars because I would not be surprised if the Tesla ones probably also perform worse when stacked up against competitors

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    Didn’t Elon say that autonomous driving was a “solved problem”?

    This doesn’t seem that solved to me…

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      Yeah, they are still working on it…

      The new data comes as Tesla is removing human safety monitors from its driverless taxi fleet.

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        21 hours ago

        and traffic tunnels, and vacuum tube trains and solar tiles, and the roadster, and electric semi trucks, and implantable chips…

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      What does he care about deaths?

      I’ll take him seriously when he takes an autonomous cab from lower to upper Manhattan.

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      It wasn’t as dramatic, but still more. But it’s not really apples to apples since the monitor in the passenger seat has a stop button.

      So it’s more than waymo, while the person is also stopping it on occasion.

      But that’s still hard to compare because waymos still do really stupid shit like turn in oncoming lanes, run red lights, or drive into flooded parking lots (all past week or two) where that saftey monitor would stop it.

      But it’s more than waymo, with the saftey monitor.

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        You know what would actually be interesting…

        If the passengers in these vehicles could flag an unsafe moment and that went directly to the NHSTA including videos and sensor data.

        That would better flag things like running red lights or driving into flooded parking lots I mentioned above that might go unreported otherwise other than social media where it’s not tracked.

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      Why would that be a relevant comparison? Why do you care about Waymo?

      If it’s safer than a human, release them to the public. If it’s more dangerous than a human ban them from public roads until they have improved.

      Goes for all autonomous car providers.

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        Well if I am going to ride in one of these ever I want to try and choose the safer of the two. I already assume the Tesla one suck. The waymo one I have no reference for.

        Also one uses just cameras and the other uses lidar so I’d like to see the difference in those.

        I think I’ll always feel safer with a human driver. They are already on the streets where I live for over a year so they must be safe enough for that at least.

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    humans crash about once every 500,000 miles

    That sounds extremely high IMO.

    https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/historical-fatality-trends/deaths-and-rates/

    As far as I can tell, that 500,000 miles number is between deadly crashes.
    So I’m not sure this is an apples to apples comparison.

    Sorry I have to downvote the article as grossly misleading.

    Edit:
    Deadly crashes are 1,38 per 100 million miles! so about 72 million miles between deadly crashes. Way way better than I thought.