TL;DR

  • Google has started rolling out a new GPU driver for the Pixel 10 series with Android 16 QPR3 Beta 1.
  • The update aligns with Imagination’s August driver release and brings Android 16 and Vulkan 1.4 support.
  • While real-world performance gains remain unconfirmed, the update should reach stable builds in a future Pixel Drop
  • kugmo@sh.itjust.works
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    16 hours ago

    If emulators and winlator do not count as android gaming, then emulation and wine/proton do not count as Linux gaming lmao.

    • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      16 hours ago

      Yes, running emulated games on a PC doesn’t automagically make them PC games, “lmao”.

      Also wine is not an emulator, as its name clearly states, it makes things run natively so we should more generally talk about “PC gaming” there.

      If you still want to make a distinction between games born for Windows and games born for Linux, then yes, those are not “Linux gaming”.

      However it is totally off topic here since not only Linux has been improving a lot in the last decade, but also the games developed for Linux have been getting incredibly good (for free).

      So, yeah… I don’t know what you were trying to convey with your comment but now you are a little more educated about gaming than you, apparently, were before.

      You are welcome.

      • Zangoose@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        Also wine is not an emulator, as its name clearly states, it makes things run natively so we should more generally talk about “PC gaming” there.

        If you still want to make a distinction between games born for Windows and games born for Linux, then yes, those are not “Linux gaming”.

        So is the line you’re drawing the emulation layer needed between ARM and x86? Or is it the difference between emulation and translation?

        If this exact same fex+proton software was run on a snapdragon laptop under Ubuntu is that really that different? Do you count apps running under Java bytecode as emulation? Because that’s a vast majority of android apps. The distinction between translation, native gaming, and emulation is ultimately kind of meaningless if you get a good experience out of it.

        Android is technically Linux under the hood, so it can (and has) been making use of the improvements to Linux gaming.

        If by “android gaming” you mean you want to see a world where games are published to the play store in addition to Steam and consoles, you should probably give up on that. The play store is too ridden with actual malware to make that a reality. Even if games got released there, people would complain that they aren’t free because all of their other phone games are. If you want to play games on your phone with a Bluetooth controller and get a decent experience, it’s already here.

        • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          12 hours ago

          I want to see games developed for android that are good and not some shitty gacha, some crippled spin off of PC games, some idiotic microtransactions stuffed disgrace or other crap that looks like it comes from 2015.

          It’s really not that complicated.

          Also, emulating is very cool, however what’s the last AAA PC game you played in your phone?

          But yeah, nothing exist because it’s all translation of bytecode at the end of the day, right?

          • Zangoose@lemmy.world
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            10 hours ago

            Also, emulating is very cool, however what’s the last AAA PC game you played in your phone?

            Excuse me for sending an incredibly clickbaited YouTube video, I don’t play AAA’s since honestly IMO they’re not as good as indies anyway. However, according to this cyberpunk runs (albeit I’m guessing that’s on low) on newer phones: https://youtu.be/ACPXNADIjKw

            I’m sure other AAAs from even just a few years ago could run fine. The only problem is that most android phones don’t have enough storage for AAAs anyway. A “native” android release wouldn’t change that.

            • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              9 hours ago

              Right, because it’s all about the storage if we don’t have decent android games.

              I think some ps2 games should be able to run on lower end phones (not sure since I never tried). When I’ll get games comparable to like FFX or Shadow of the Colossus (the first two that come to mind) I’ll finally be satisfied with android gaming.

              Until then all the p2w shit and other crap, or even 5yo PC games at low graphic settings on flagship phones, won’t cut it.

              Luckily my current phone will probably be my last android device too.

              • Zangoose@lemmy.world
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                7 hours ago

                When I’ll get games comparable to like FFX or Shadow of the Colossus (the first two that come to mind) I’ll finally be satisfied with android gaming.

                Again, indie games exist and can easily be run on most phones through Winlator/GameNative. The Nintendo switch is basically an 8 year old midrange phone processor and that still got games, plenty of steam titles will run fine on even a low/midrange android phone.

                Until then all the p2w shit and other crap, or even 5yo PC games at low graphic settings on flagship phones, won’t cut it.

                So you want games comparable to what came out in 2001 and 2005, but a 5 year old AAA is too old for you? What???

                Luckily my current phone will probably be my last android device too.

                If you’re saying this because you’re switching to iPhone, I wouldn’t get my hopes up on the situation improving. It’s equally as bad on iOS. If you’re saying that because you’re getting a Linux phone or a non-smartphone, fair enough but those don’t have any games, let alone emulated ones.