Thoughts?

Is this imperialism by China, a country which is supposed to be left-wing? Leftists are normally anti-imperialism. Wouldn’t it be better to let Taiwan democratically decide whether they want to be part of China or not?

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      10 hours ago

      Except that was a peaceful process, not an invasion/annexation. Because part of Taiwan’s strategic defense policy is “we will melt our chip fabs to slag if the PRC invades”. Thus, they hold a gun to the head of pretty much all of the most advanced chip fabrication in the world, which most of the rest of the world has a vested interest in keeping working.

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        Except that was a peaceful process, not an invasion/annexation

        The only invasion I’m seeing is US Navy vessels encircling the island and threatening their economy.

        they hold a gun to the head of pretty much all of the most advanced chip fabrication in the world

        That’s been the American line for going on ten years. But the real gun has always been the Pacific Fleet, threatening to repeat the crimes of Vietnam on Chinese civilians, much like they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and now Venezuela and Nigeria.

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          The only invasion I’m seeing is US Navy vessels encircling the island and threatening their economy.

          I must be going colorblind because those ships are flying a very red American flag…

          repeat the crimes of Vietnam on Chinese civilians, much like they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and now Venezuela and Nigeria

          Lol wtf? Unless you really bought dubya’s WMD bullshit, one of these countries is not like the others… I really doubt that any Chinese civilian on Chinese soil is going to get so much as a dirty look from any US armed forces…

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            19 minutes ago

            I must be going colorblind because those ships are flying a very red American flag…

            You’re spitting distance from the coast of Fujain. I gotta wonder why you’d expect to see an American warship on the Chinese coastline.

            Unless…

            Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers USS Antietam (CG 54) and USS Chancellorsville (CG 62) are conducting a routine Taiwan Strait transit August 28 (local time) through waters where high seas freedoms of navigation and overflight apply in accordance with international law.

            Crazy how it’s international waters when an American warship is in them.

            I really doubt that any Chinese civilian on Chinese soil is going to get so much as a dirty look from any US armed forces…

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_espionage_in_China

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          3 hours ago

          You think the USA is going to start an aggressive boots-on-ground assault on China?

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              3 hours ago

              China is a nuclear power. With a much larger population than the USA. What exactly do you imagine the hypothetical war-goals would be here?

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                2 hours ago

                Dude is high on his own supply. China is simultaneously the weakest and strongest global power depending on what argument needs to be made

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          8 hours ago

          The only invasion I’m seeing is US Navy vessels encircling the island and threatening their economy.

          Saying this on the same day that Chinese warships encircled Taiwan.

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              3 hours ago

              Wtf are you talking about? Imperialist China just finished encircling Taiwan in a “defense exercise”

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                  2 hours ago

                  Yeah, China should definitely subjugate Taiwan to fend off those Americans who have no intention of attacking China and who have benefitted from trillions of dollars of trade from the US.

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                    China should definitely subjugate Taiwan

                    Only you guys seem to think this.

                    You’re obsessed with global conquest and you think you’re in a race with China to do it.

                    who have benefitted from trillions of dollars of trade from the US.

                    Have they? Why is Taiwanese standard of living so low?