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fosforus@sopuli.xyz to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Russia dismisses Ukraine peace plan: ‘Let’s decide it on the battlefield’

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Russia dismisses Ukraine peace plan: ‘Let’s decide it on the battlefield’

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The foreign minister called a 10-point blueprint promoted by Kyiv ‘not feasible’, and added that a UN proposal to revive the Ukraine grain deal would not work.
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    At this point the war is a stalemate. Given that, Ukraine’s requirements for peace are… well they don’t have the “war-score” to try for those options yet. TBH I don’t think they want peace without those requirements, and Russia isn’t beat enough to agree. So peace is just off the table for now. Which suggests it was never a serious offer anyway.

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      Whoops! Russia has lost. The only question is how much more will it lose. Believe for that reason? the peace offer is probably 100% serious, though I guess Ukraine could be planning some kind of trick.

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      This was is absolutely not at a stalemate. Ukraine just wasted their offensive capability and all the weapons they received in an offensive that failed to accomplish anything. If people seriously think that Russia isn’t going to go on an offensive of their own with the 400k troops they assembled, they’re in for a big surprise.

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        Ukraine did nothing of those things. Your addiction to Putin propaganda is just showing.

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          Putin propagandists must’ve infiltrated the highest echelons of liberal western media, because here’s what they’ve been saying

          • https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/08/the-hard-reality-ukraines-last-gasp-offensive-has-failed/
          • https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/23/western-criticism-blame-ukraine-failing-counter-offensive/
          • https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/18/ukraine-fail-counter-offensive-crimea/
          • https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-poland-central-europe-eastern-kyiv-baltics-zelenskyy-war-invasion/
          • https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/09/21/ukraine-faces-a-long-war-a-change-of-course-is-needed
          • https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/ending-the-war-by-a-negotiated-peace-li.417902
          • https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-21/ukraine-zelenskiy-under-pressure-as-allies-priorities-shift
          • https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-poland-central-europe-eastern-kyiv-baltics-zelenskyy-war-invasion/
          • https://www.businessinsider.com/why-ukraines-air-defence-cant-cope-russias-rejigged-old-bombs-2023-9
          • https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/23/the-russians-just-knocked-out-a-fifth-of-the-ukrainians-best-strv-122-tanks/

          Your utter lack of understanding of the subject you’re opining on is just showing.

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