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    3 days ago

    If the infotainment system doubles as the gearshift as a deliberate way to marry the two, yes! Try driving a Tesla (well don’t because of bad corporate ownership; but still, as example):

    • The steering wheel isn’t connected to the wheels, it’s connected to the computer.
    • The windshield wipers are controlled by the computer.
    • Everything in the security system checks in by the computer.
    • The car can be remotely disabled by the computer

    If they can make a vroom vroom box dependent on a computer, why do you think a chill box is exempt?

    • “I’m sorry, but the temperature control requires registering an account in the app”
    • “Oh, the in-door icebox needs a subscription, but you’re welcome to use trays in the freezer if you prefer”
    • “You missed your installment payment, please pay in 3 days or cooling functionality will be suspended”
    • “The child door lock has been automatically engaged for your safety”
    • The fridge of the future requires an always on internet connection”

    You think CEOs aren’t just itching to pull crap like this? What use is it if the motor technically operates, if the controls simply refuse to turn it on?

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      I’m sorry, but I’m talking about the real world, where things actually happen.

      I already shared you the study on lifespan of appliances over the decades, and how the old ones we still working are usually due to survivorship bias, I’m not sure what more you want.

      I’m just not interested in arguing made up hypotheticals.

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        Excuse me. I was a few days early … now can we discuss this?

        https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

        “Everything is an order of magnitude more difficult,” she said of the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.

        The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.

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          STILL doesn’t affect the basic operation of the fridge, or the findings of the study i linked.

          I’m not saying these features are good, or that an AI fridge is worth buying… im just saying statistically, a modern fridge will have a similar lifespan as a fridge from the 70s

          Do i need to keep repeating myself?

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            Yes, I concede the parts aren’t in disrepair. Just saying, for the context of the original meme, what does it matter if the motor part is working if the fridge if the fridge is otherwise making itself unusable?

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              Fridge is still fully usable though. Even if the AI craps out, and the touch screen shows adds… its still a cold box to put your stuff in, with a lifespan similar to a device from the 70s.

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                Unless corporate turns off the cold to shake more money out of you - which has been done repeatedly in other technologies. Juicers that require branded juice, ditto for coffee machines, multifunction printers that won’t operate the scanner without a subscription. When Samsung said “security and privacy are foundational” about the AI fridge at CES, what do you think that’s a euphemism for? They’re not taking about user privacy or user security (but would like rubes to think they are). They mean their ability to re-secure the fridge if you stop giving Samsung your data/cash.

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                  Just going to copy and paste my previous comment, since it addresses what you say perfectly:

                  STILL doesn’t affect the basic operation of the fridge, or the findings of the study i linked.

                  I’m not saying these features are good, or that an AI fridge is worth buying… im just saying statistically, a modern fridge will have a similar lifespan as a fridge from the 70s

                  Do i need to keep repeating myself?

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                    Shutting down the motor and locking the door would both impede the basic operation of the fridge. The CES AI fridge has both a motor to open and close the door and a child safety lock. Those two components plus temperature control are wired into the control computer. It is one online connected automatic firmware update away from deciding it can lock you out and set the temperature to room temperature.

                    And the funny part is, if that happened, the report you cited above would still consider the fridge functional, because the equipment is operating ‘as designed’ and Samsung could restore functionality at the drop of a hat. But that wouldn’t be any consolation to the user.

                    But I’m done here. Stick your head in the sand if you think that protects you.