Still no troops for Ukraine.
Anyway we are fucked up as Europe. We are digital colony of USA… everything relies on us companies…
Europe finally figuring out that they are about to be fighting a two front war against a fascist invasion.
Their enemies will be the unlikliest of allies.
It’s 3.
One inside.
Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden and Canada are sending troops to Greenland
Churchill once said of the Old World being endangered and hoping for the New World to step into the rescue.
But now, makes me wonder if the Old World could possibly do the same, but feels like a long shot.
Putin couldn’t be happier by this chaos and distraction from Ukraine. Investment paying off.
I wish people would quit saying this. If Trump was a Russian asset, why would he be seizing Russia’s shadow fleet and destroying Russia’s influence in Venezuela? Why would the CIA continue to give the Ukrainians targeting information and why are American weapons still flowing to Ukraine via European allies?
Trump is not a Russian agent. He is simply America manifest. He is selfish, narcissistic, and always looking to blame other people for his own failings. Putin may have given Trump a little boost because Putin figured the outcome would be beneficial to him overall, and Trump has a weird submissive man-crush on Putin like he does on any other authoritarian who Trump secretly wishes he could be, but in the end he’s not helped Putin and now Putin is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with Putin any more. Russia is a fading regional power on its last dying gasps before China takes it over as a client state.
America is doing this of its own volition. They can’t blame everything on Putin.
They aren’t seizing Russia’s fleet, they were seizing Venezuela’s fleet, the one carrying hard to refine crude oil. They are more interested in the Exxon and Chevron tankers Ukraine continued bombing. Owe a bank 10 bucks, it’s your problem. Owe a bank a million, it’s their problem. Those countries gave their gold and resources to Russia. Now, when they expect to receive support back, the US is giving them an excuse why they don’t need to as long as they perform a bit of false flag theater they are so accustomed to. Russia gets to double dip when the Russian stooges send the last of their gold deposits and wealth to Russia to retire there.
Russia wants to assist Trump while feigning their part as the “enemy”, yet they always manage to work lockstep in the grand scheme of things. So much so, that I expect that when the US does launch an operation against Greenland, they will try to be sneaky about it yet do it with Russia’s help, likely from one the detachments claiming to be following one of the shadow fleets.
Russia considers its allies temporary and expendable, they’ve sacrificed theirs in negotiations to cooperate with the US to divide up their direct influence into hemispheres. Russia is specially interested in restoring the old USSR borders, but now just any win will do and they are a willing participant to Trump. Getting rid of competitors and letting go of the political baggage of their allies once exhausted is what they do. The regime puppets have already sent all their gold to Russia to try to secure their retirement within their borders. Russia treats its allies like the US is starting to.
Strictly speaking, Trump is not a Russian asset, he’s everything you claim him to be, but he also is quite willing to work with Russia and other criminal elements to get himself ahead. Russia is his ally because they have mutual interests and Russia was never in it to build an empire spanning the globe. Iran was not useful against Israel, they’ve provided all the support they could to Russia, and now they are becoming too costly to maintain because of all the spheres of influence they are in conflict with. Venezuela still has the same regime, if anything one that is even more of a stooge, both to Russia and the US. Those “captured” shadow fleets are just another form of money exchanging hands.
Dictators usually end up turning on each other, but usually after they’ve run out of prey to play with and have to deal with their own consequences of their own actions. The US still has plenty of momentum in its drive towards fascism, and they will get more out of treating Russia as a shadow false flag ally that reverting back towards the old democratic world order that would condemn his own country’s shift towards a dictatorship.
Shh. The world is black and white.
Trump is not a Russian agent.
But agent of all the world’s reactionary oligarchy. Oil sheiks, pharma tycoons, techbros, and of course Russian mobster oligarchy in both business and politics. What flag they fly doesn’t matter, it’s all about the money. And power. And the ability to control the rest of humanity as chattel.
All having the desire to create their dystopia, end progressivism and diversity as we know it, and wanting to have their money roam anywhere and spend how much they want while the rest of the impoverished suffer further.
Despite some losses in Ukraine, despite embargoes and boycotts, Putin is still feeling like he’s winning in the propaganda war that was very long in the making since Khrushchev, as he used all the skillsets he had as a master spy, and years or even months away from excitedly watching the US collapse in the mire of its own hubris.
edit: Can you stop talking about Trump doing this on his fucking own? Bastard got slotted as a candidate to become Iblis of the world by Roy Cohn, and just happened to dovetail with Russian geopolitical interests, specifically Dugin’s concept of Russian world order.
You wanna know who’s really gonna win this once the dust settles? China, which I’m sure if their idea of a New World Order prevails based on trade, will have dozens of developing countries and even some developed countries under its fold. And that’s not a benevolent setup for the future, just yet another Gilded Age but with Xi Jinping characteristics.
Trump is nobody’s agent. He is a demented narcissistic psychopath who craves attention and adulation. Since he has no understanding of love or friendship, the only tools he has at his disposal to get it is power and dominance. He wants to be a “winner”, which to him means he needs to make everyone else around him “losers.” By hurting them, by degrading them, by taking away their trappings of wealth.
There are other people who try to use Trump, because he’s very easy to manipulate when you understand him. He has no principles or standards other than those I described, so there’s lots of obvious buttons to press. The problem is that none of those buttons stay pressed. Even if Trump had the mental capacity to remember things from day to day it wouldn’t matter to him because no deal or position he holds lasts longer than the moment he thinks of some way to get something “better.” Trump can be manipulated in the same manner that a handful of mud can be manipulated. It won’t stay in the shape you put it in and it’s constantly slipping through your fingers.
Putin may think that he’s responsible for Trump’s actions, but only by coincidence and never in any sort of long-term strategic sense. And the reason Trump is in charge of America is because the Americans wanted him to be.
Destroying the shadow fleet is something the US military is doing, and I’m sure trump is doing everything he can to drag his feet.
Maduro had outlived his usefulness, he was a liability; by having the US seize control it doesn’t substantially reduce Russian influence, since Russia now has a much stronger hold over American politicians than back when Venezuela was a vital proxy.
Destroying the shadow fleet is something the US military is doing, and I’m sure trump is doing everything he can to drag his feet.
Trump has been bragging about seizing those ships. He’s not dragging his feet. You really think Trump wouldn’t be raging his head off and firing generals left and right if the US military was doing that stuff against his wishes?
by having the US seize control it doesn’t substantially reduce Russian influence, since Russia now has a much stronger hold over American politicians than back when Venezuela was a vital proxy.
You’re delusional. And I say that as a Canadian who has absolutely no love of America. Venezuela was dependent on Russia for its own defense, America isn’t.
A government spokesperson for Germany also confirmed to Reuters that soldiers would be sent to Greenland on Thursday. The country is expected to deploy over a dozen reconnaissance troops, according to the report.
:-/
This feels like the time Poland sent eight soldiers in with the US invasion of Iraq.
It’s more than they sent to Ukraine!
Hi. I have to step in about Polish soldiers :p I don’t know what you’re referring to but there were 2500 Polish soldiers deployed to Iraq, 150 wounded and 28 dead. That was during very hard economic times for Poland, still recovering from communism. Somehow they found money for this and sent them with really shitty equipment (cars “armoured” with bulletproof vests on the doors as protection for example)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_involvement_in_the_Iraq_War
These are advance troops that will figure out logistics, where it makes sense to deploy a bigger force. What they need, and infrastructure.
They are also a deterrent, if german soldiers are killed shit will hit the fan.
Often called “tripwire forces” when they were NATO troops stationed in Eastern Europe. Their purpose is to force the adversary to kill some people before it can take any territory, ensuring that they can’t simply make it a fait accompli and hope there will be no further repercussions.
I mean, we’ll see. But if the US really is serious about taking Greenland by force, you’ve got a US military base already on the island that’s been running these defense calculations for decades. It’s going to be an uphill climb just to reach parity with the Americans on securing the territory. I hope this isn’t perfunctory, and someone is asking the question “How do we deal with one or more US aircraft carriers?” seriously.
You mean like that time when a Swedish diesel sub bypassed all the defenses and “sunk” the US carrier?
Or that time when Netherlands sub “sunk” one?
Or that time when Australia “sunk” one?
Or that time when Canada “sunk” one?
Those carriers are far from invincible.
The USA is historically bad at wars - Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea - all lost despite their massive military spending.
The only wars they won in modern times are the ones where they received help from their EU NATO allies.
They’re only good at “strike and run away” operations, like the one in Venezuela.
If they can’t take Greenland overnight, it will cost them very dearly to go to war with NATO, with no certainty of winning.
To date, no US aircraft carrier has been lost in a military operation. You’re using “sunk” to describe military exercises that informed the US of all the strategies potentially deployed by these countries.
Those carriers are far from invincible.
If the Europeans want to put a US carrier at the bottom of the ocean, I’m not going to shed a tear. But you’re pointing to scrimmage runs and exhibition matches, while you’ve been letting Americans see your playbooks (hell, write your playbooks) for the last 60 years.
Put up or shut up.
America lost a bunch in World War II. Since then they’ve been exceedingly careful not to risk losing them, always putting them up against foes that couldn’t hit back. Both because they’re expensive, of course, but also to cultivate the very myth that you’re falling for - that American naval power is “invincible.”
It’s not.
Any US carrier strike group can probably sink the entire navy of most countries. This calls for a full NATO response because if it doesn’t then I don’t know what does
Wasn’t it one of the Nordics that ‘sunk’ an American carried in drills a while back?
One of? I thought it was several…
It’s not about realistically fighting of the US if they decide to really go for it, but they will have to kill European soldiers if they decide to do so. This would effectively end NATO and the transantlantic partnership.
NATO isn’t a partnership between democratic member states, its a partnership between regional militaries.
The end state of the conflict over Greenland will be - if anything - a series of US-backed coups in European countries that preserve NATO by realigning the civilian leadership with the foreign policy of the US.
We’re already seeing this with the AfD in Germany, the Reform UK in England, and National Rally in France. These countries are functionally aligning with Trump as white-nationalist governments working towards the same end goals. And they’ve all heavily infiltrated their domestic militaries.
What? That didn’t happen. Poland sent thousands of troops to support the war.
200, in the year of the invasion. It swelled to 2,500 over the next five years, then trickled away into a final withdrawal a month before the Republicans lost the White House in 2008.
There were smaller deployments - Iceland sent 2 soldiers, for instance. But it all paled behind the the US at 150k and UK at 46k. Which goes back to the whole problem with a NATO internal conflict. The US is the backbone of European defense. Again, what do any of these countries plan to do against an aircraft carrier group? Nobody seems to have a serious answer.
Serious question: how will a carrier group fare in arctic ice during winter? Will it be what is needed to hold an Arctic island after showing up all bristly in the summer months?
While the USA’s relatively slim arctic-ready forces are deployed on the Atlantic side of the ice, what will be happening on the pacific side?
An answer: they can take it, but when winter comes, holding it will be difficult. The northern NATO members have notable infantry that can use the ice to advantage, and there are only five or six harbours of interest in Greenland.
While it’s sad that things have even come to this at all, it’s good to hear someone is at least doing the bare minimum to stand up to Trump.
Patrolling the Greenland wastes almost makes you wish for a Mojave winter
