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“My” PC
Nah.
Just returned to Debian after a few years away.
My previous distro would serve me warnings twice a day that updates were available.
But Debian?
“The machine is up and running. Now it’s your duty to check for updates. And install the programs you may need. Set things up as you want it. If you want it.”
I’m sure you could set up a cronjob to launch a script that checks for updates and sends some notification about it
Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour unattended-upgrades?
I could, if I wanted to. Running a weekly check for updates is more than enough for me.
Oh no, you cant be more wrong OP, what windows actually does is wait till you really need the PC for something. A presentation, your PhD defense, taking data in a flashdrive before leaving to catch a train.
With the latest windows 11 update they broke the shutdown feature
One can still shutdown, but it requires going into the spooky, scary terminal.
h o w
Some PM: “it’s Patch Tuesday, we must push the monthly update or the users will revolt, push it at exactly 10:00!”
“But we didn’t finish the tests!”
PM: “Push. It. Right. Now.”
The head-to-head comparison between the update user experience is so incredibly lopsided against Windows, that it kind of seems silly.
I bet if both have a big yearly update, I could format and install an entire fresh copy of the linux distro before the windows machine would be usable.
Update and shutdown?
What about update and I let your pc on all night without your knowledge?
Wait, there are people whose computers actually shutdown when Update and Shutdown is selected? I swear I’ve never had that happen since 2 or 3 years ago, and everything since has always restarted my devices.
Yeah, that was the same thing with me and my windows machines for years (i think I remember it working properly at one point though). I heard they recently fixed it though.
God I forgot about that. Windows makes me so mad.
Microsoft doesn’t understand consent, not to mention user agency.
Jesus dude
Yeaaahhhh, i’m a disagree with this one a little.
It goes like that until the update changes the kernel version and breaks a video driver. I mean, it’s a lot rarer than it used to be, but our arcade box at work just got hit with it.
Windows usual fail mode (which is often) is update won’t process so it wastes an hour of your time a bunch of times and either justs starts working or requires you to dig into it and either run it manually, or clear up some cache.
Windows not booting into a gui on an update is pretty rare.
Homie, if a kernel update breaks something you can just boot back into the older kernel from grub. It literally only takes the time to reboot the computer.
Until you roll back and shits broken now because the new kernel was a requirement on other shit that was in the update.
For my own shit, I’m running nixos, so when I roll back, every app that just got updated rolls back, perfect recovery, but that doesn’t work for most.
As far as the pop-os that broke the other day, I’m more than capable of depsolving and fixing it, but it’s not ideal.
I can’t get over how Linux updates seem to use so much more bandwidth, though. Several GB of updates every few days…
What the hell is being updated on your rig?
interesting, I only get to spend a some megabytes updating debian.
What distro is that?
Ubuntu mostly, EndeavourOS doesn’t seem to have as much, but I don’t update it as often either so it’s not an easy comparison. Ubuntu seems to have new libraries or whatever every other day.
That is a lot. Does Ubuntu have patch listing? With zypper on openSUSE it can list you security patches and their status of critical, recommended, not needed etc and you can just update patches and not every update to the repo.
Idk man, I have to not update my arch for like a month to get ~10gb of updates.
Just use Slackware then.
EDIT: Just pointing out this is distro specific and not Linux specific.
Considering the fact that most home users would never ever update their PCs unless forced too and then complain about a virus they got. It kinda makes sense to force people to update.
The same applies in any professional environment. Not forcing updates to clients in a professional environment is very stupid and will land you in trouble sooner or later.
That’s what it used to be. They managed to sort out their updates. Windows updates system is pretty good now. The issue is what’s included in those updates, like all the AI bloat. But that’s a different issue.
Forced updates are only an issue on corporate machines now, because it’s your IT guy pushing them and setting deadlines to update.
Also, Linux updates can completely break your system. Not often, but it can happen.
Nah, assuming that they can update cause you leaved your pc hanging is bad.
Doesn’t happen to me. Like I said, they sorted out their updates system, it doesn’t have such issues anymore.
IT Youtubers who use Linux don’t even know the difference between Windows Home and Pro. Linux subs about the same.
I still can’t get over the fact that there’s just no way to prevent Windows 11 home edition from ever rebooting automatically.
Because non-techy users would use that feature and then complain to Microsoft when their OS gets malware or breaks.
I think you’re right but I wouldn’t be surprised at all by an angry “akshually…” reply in the near future. I’ve had multiple users claim they’re windows gurus and have literally never had an automatic reboot happen to them
Windows does a lot of sneaky reboots that it doesn’t notify about before or after. I dualboot and windows is not the default OS, so when I leave windows running and come back to linux, I know what happened.
My (very barebones) linux desktop has no way to ask me, it’s been removed.
