• EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’ve said this before, but Canada needs to start manufacturing drones. Like yesterday. Put the factories far from the border.

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    The rest of NATO needs to step up and make a military exercise off the coast of Canada as a show of force that it shouldn’t be messed around with even among allies.

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      Canada itself should start a military exercise where it practises laying landmines. No need to practise picking them up though, there’s plenty of time for that later.

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        That would be a violation of the Ottawa treaty.

        And landmines don’t actually stop an army, they just slow it down and inhibit maneuver.

        The supplementary reserve of 300,000 citizen soldiers that’s being planned is a better idea. There would be no stopping a US invasion, but 300,000 resistance fighters ensures the US would lose the occupation, as it usually does.

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    Canada needs to put the Gripen factory on an accelerated track, cancel the entire F-35 order, and move ahead with an immediate purchase of min. 50 Gripens using the F-35 funds to cover the gap and train up pilots until Gripens start rolling out of the factory.

    Canada’s complete F-35 promise will cost the country $28,000,000,000 ($28B) with billions more needed to bring them up to full operational efficiency, and yet the Gripen costs only $65,000,000 ($65M) per aircraft, allowing us to buy 430 fully-functional Gripen jets instead of 88 partially functional F-35 jets.

    Remember: tech superiority does not win battles. Sheer numbers do. WWII demonstrated this overwhelmingly on many different fronts, with many different technologies.

    As just one example, the Germans had Tiger tanks that could face off against 6-8 Shermans at a time and win with barely a scratch on their hull, but when 10, 20, or even more came roaring over the hilltop for every Tiger that was fielded, their tech superiority ended being absolutely useless. They got overrun and overwhelmed with sheer numbers.

    The F35 can be rendered equally as useless with enough Gripens in the air.

    And the Gripens don’t come with a remote kill switch like the F-35 does.

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      Agree with everything you say, and yes quantity has a quality of its own, but I think that in addition we should fly the Gripens and the F35s that we have against each other and figure out how to beat the F35s with the Gripens. Then share that info with our new allies. If we need to modify or augment the Gripens then we can work with the Swedes to do that.

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        We can already figure much of that out from the technological specifications of the F-35. Simply looking at the capabilities can give us strong clues on how to neuter or at least limit the inherent F-35 advantages from a tech standpoint.

        The rest of that comes down to how the pilot behaves, and what tactics they have been trained in. And this is where differences in training, corps attitudes, and even pilot personalities can dramatically affect performance.

        And while I fully agree with you in regards to pilot training, our problem is that a Canadian fighter pilot is likely to behave (tactic chain, decision trees, emotional responses, etc.) considerably differently than an American fighter pilot. As such, while we need to train our pilots in Gripen jets against F-35 jets in combat-like scenarios, we need to do so against American pilots, not Canadian ones.

        And that’s the tough part - how do we get the American administration to willingly play along with activities that are obviously meant to train our pilots to fight theirs, and gain a consistent toehold against pilots in F-35s even if it means losing a few Gripens for every one of their F-35s. It needs to be done with a great deal of subtlety and subterfuge.

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          I’m not suggesting we ask the Americans to help us discover exploits, and I’m sure there are more than just pilot-related exploits. These are very complex systems.

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        So? They are attacking Venezuela, Iran (it’s coming), Greenland (ie NATO), AND Canada - they will be stretched too thin and are run by incompetents. The rest of the world dumps the dollar and Us treasury bonds, the dollar is no longer the reserve currency for oil, and they are kneecapped. We do that and disrupt their supply chains and a big part of the problem is solved.

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        It’s a lot harder for America to accept attacking Canada is the casualties will be 100,000 instead of 10,000

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        US has over 2000 fighter jets. In hand.

        And they can’t deploy them all at the same time on the same target, unless they risk being vulnerable elsewhere

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        The objective is not to win. Winning against America’s imperial might is impossible.

        The objective is to make them bleed as much as possible. To make victory as phyrric and as painful for them as possible. And when going up against the most expensive war plane in human history, this means choosing the aircraft that can get as technologically close as possible with as many units as possible on a per-dollar-spent basis.

        We can make them bleed much more with 420 fully-functional Gripens than we can with 88 partially-functional F-35s that can be remotely shut down against our will.

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          The US always wins the invasion but pretty much always loses the occupation.

          Air power isn’t how you win, because it’s hard to hide a jet fighter. Assault rifles, RPGs, IEDs and a willingness to fight longer than they’re willing to is what’s needed to win the occupation.

          Americans forget that Canadians served in Afghanistan. But I don’t. I know someone who diffused IEDs over there, pretty sure he knows how to build them if needed.

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      Competent pilots cost too. We need to invest in unmanned capabilities much more. All humans should just be behind their desks fighting a war remotely from Hawaii or something

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      Us gear has kill switches in it.

      Not only that, for decades now it’s been rumoured the us has secret code on most all computers, a kill switch, blue screen of death.

      I bet corporations have their own.

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    Read the article, people.

    He’s actually taking a much softer stance on Canada, and that’s worth paying attention to.

    Oh, I’m not saying he has benevolent intentions toward Canada, lol.

    But he’s not looking to get us particularly riled either.

    One, he wants to keep tensions with Europe away from his border.

    Two, he is deathly afraid that real Americans that haven’t drunk his kool-aid will have a place to flee, regroup and fight.

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      Yeah and to be honest we DO need to do more to protect the Arctic. We just also need to protect ourselves form the jackasses south of the border.

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      Boycott US products and services in general too. Switch your online accounts to non-US companies. If you have investments, pull them out of the USA.

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        For the Canadians : shop app is a part of shopify to replace Amazon. Plus you can filter it to Canadian only. Canadian tire is like Amazon but in RL.

        Petrocan

        Go Canada computers instead of best buy

        Gem

        Kobo instead of kindle or audible.

        Where you can’t find a Canadian substitute for American: get a European one. They are usually way better quality than American anyways. Better standards

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      Why anyone would visit disneyland over a national park or coral reef idk in the first place.

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    Close

    The

    Border

    Shut the lights off. Stop the oil. Sell the bonds.

    Time to pull that bandaid off.

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      I would say stop selling the potash so there’s a famine. The one thing that causes all dictators to be overthrown from within, is a couple missed meals in a row. The whole world should get Americans to fight America by shutting then off from sustenance until the mess they created is cleaned.

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        Yes I believe this is exactly what the Russians had in mind when they installed him.

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    He’s a Russian asset. He’s trying to destabilize the US as well as NATO, and our other allies. The more time we spend on infighting, the less likely we’ll be to stand up to our enemies

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    I guess he’s going to annex every ally at this point. Make America NATO Again!

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    Bring it fucking on! No longer elbows up, time to drop the gloves!

    Fighting Nazis sounds fun. Pussies.

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    It feels like the world is in a late game stage of Civilization and the most recent hotseat player is just fed up with the grind and feels like nuking something.

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    He’d bitter shoot his fookin mooth if he knows wats gude for em.

    You want mounties? Because this is how you get mounties.

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      No. For too long your geese have flouted our border conteols with impunity. While you hide behind your fake politey. I say build the wall! /s

      Seriously though canada hosts some of the worst corporarions in the world, mining conglomerates responsible for untold atrocities worldwide.

      Then they have an ageing oil pipeline under the straits of mackinac, it is a when it bursts, using corrupt influence on our captured judiciary to prevent shutting it down, or even putting pressure cut off switches so if there is a leak or rupture it automatically gets cut off.

      This same company, Enbridge, already had a large spill in battle creek they corruptly avoided cleaning up, same year as deepwater horizon in the gulf.

      Not so polite indeed, eh?

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        Yeah, and American oil companies are the poster children of environmentalism. And if Al Gore and Ralph Nader tag-teamed Greta Thurnberg, had a baby, put it up for adoption, and had it raised by Captain Planet himself, you wouldn’t have someone who cares more about the environment than Donald J Trump.

        /s, of course.

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          All multinationals are as shitty as governments allow them to be I’m afraid, and despite canada’s reputation, like switzerland, of being progressive, they host some of the worst companies in the world alongside the US and others. The entire west has been corrupted in the past half century, all major parties seized by monied interests and ratcheting our societies to plutocracy, and that action ultimately pulls us to fascism without a popular reform option outside of fascists now backed by the two superpowers, fully intent on helping them fix themselves in power permanently.

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    We’ll that would be an interesting front on the upcoming war with the rest of NATO.

    Seems like fucking with Canada would not be the best idea. Didn’t work out so well for America the last time it happened (the war of 1812). And this time Canada would have more allies in the fight than just a small contingent of the Britain military and some of the native American tribes.