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California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) announced just one day after the U.S. officially withdrew from the World Health Organization (WHO) that his state would become the first to join the organization’s Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network, in a seeming rebuke of the Trump administration’s withdrawal from international collaborations.
Newsom traveled this week to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where he was scheduled to speak at an event but was canceled at the last moment. During his trip, he met with WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.
Please bilaterally secede already, California
That would be unequivocally bad.
Why?
Just break up already. The divorce was evident long ago, I wish you both could see it. You can’t coexist because you want different things. You want to live in different worlds. Move on already.
The US divorcing itself is the best thing that could happen right now. It won’t be pretty, but neither is staying with a domestic abuser.
Trump would never let it happen, the GOP would never let it happen, the US military is so powerful it is improbable it’d actually happen successfully.
Sweet. Come on New York, do it next. If Trump won’t protect us, our state can.
The mayor might
Imagine traveling back in time to the 80’s and telling people that one day Donald Trump would start the dissolution of The United States.
thats the time when the russians have been funneling money through him.
Why did the US want to leave WHO in the first place? Is there anything to gain from leaving?
rfk jr is quite obsessed with “infections for all”
The current administration is dismantling all of the global things the US has been a part of under the guise of the US being “ripped off” and it’s actively making shit worse.
Feels intentional to me but I don’t know the end goal.
Praxis. Thiel and other oligarchs want to divvy up the United States into fiefdoms, where they personally set laws and have the king’s right to your family’s bedrooms.
Such is the times, that I am not sure if this is an exaggeration. 😒
Less funding “woke” organizations, means more money for the billionaires.
The New California Republic
Newsom California Republic
Gross
God please no
Time for the entire west coast to align with Canada and Mexico and expel the MAGATs from our states
soo when will California declare independence?
I get that what’s I’m going to say is crazy, but I think it would be a lot easier to just remove trump from office than gain indipendence. Neither would be “easy” but balkanizing the US is just not gonna happen.
Famous last words of many empires
It’ll never happen, as nice as it sounds.
So I’m Canadian and we have separatists in, now 2 provinces.
Whether the latest is a conservative US psy-op, is up for debate. But that is probably part of it.
The Quebec separatists have been angry for the total of my lifetime and being from BC I’ve mostly ignored their plight of “different culture” but I never wanted to lose that chunk of the country and to me it’s part of the greater Canadian culture.
The Alberta “separatists” are different, they are more like traitors.
Citing stats like, “Alberta (oil and gas province, the “Texas” of Canada) contributes more in equalization payments to other Canadians provinces!”, which is true, as a total sum.
But the morons don’t understand that equalization payments are taken from federal taxes in a bracketed tax system, so it just means on average, Albertans are richer. The rich they cry that they’re not getting fair share…
Epitome of greed.
They believe because they were simply born there, moved there, that all the mineral and oil and gas profits belong to them. They’re even more idiotic to believe the producers will share these profits with them.
They’re not taking that away from our country, and it’s worth going to war over. I think California would end up falling into the same situation of belief, though reversed between conservative and left-of-conservative views.
They’d go to war over it. So bit of a dangerous play.Yep, and the equalization payment garbage really sums up the right-leaning mentality that’s pushed on society lately as well; if the results aren’t immediate, it’s not worth doing. These traitors scream about how they pay more than other provinces and get nothing back. The fact is they get a lot back, it’s just not immediately apparent.
Equalization payments help “have-not” provinces who need the boost, which strengthens those provinces. Strengthening the “have-nots” makes Canada stronger as a whole and more united, which very much helps Alberta (and every province). The “fuck you I got mine” attitude that gets pushed by Conservative gov’ts is a toxic cancer that’s spreading through the population and makes it easy for them to push their division politics, like Danielle Smith does. You’re meant to get sucked into it to fight the culture war so you don’t look up and fight the class war.
also, if we didnt just let these multinational oil companies just siphon off all the profits and leave messy orphaned wells for the public to clean up, albertans would be better off
If we had started a sovereign wealth fund like norway, instead of shipping all the profits overseas, we would all be better off…
I would actually support oil and gas if it actually benefitted the nation.
Canada got rid of the british, but not the corporations that are the true colonizers still extracting from the land and the people and sending the wealth overseas
Capitalism is the root cause of every modern societal problem, and also the biggest obstacle to most solutions.
The Heritage Fund was our Noway fund, it was just mismanaged to the point of nonexistence. Smith “brought it back” but I suspect it’s going to just be a slush fund to increase pension payments for the first couple years after dumping CPP to make it seem like the APP performs better.
I’m still waiting for New California Republic, Americans.
The last time this was seriously touted weather hit a few weeks later and the state cried for federal help. Whether its a good idea or a bad idea isn’t the point. The point is the state can’t support itself so independence will fail regardless.
Off the top of my head I don’t know what time you’re referring to but…
Is it “crying” for help, or just trying to utilize FEMA… the thing that’s setup for that exact situation?
I was referring to the 2020 fires. And It was both. I say “crying” because literally one week the vocal statement was “we don’t need the federal government” and the next week it was “you need to give us federal aid now”.
Yes, that is what FEMA is for, and California should (and did) get it. But the F is FEMA is Federal. You can’t have it both ways.
Again, I’m not for or against the concept. I’m just saying its very clear California is not able to separate.
If California didn’t send $80 billion more to the federal gov’t than it got back every year, I don’t think they’d need FEMA.
I just responded to another comment about this. I agree that keeping the money we pay to the federal government can be redistributed, but I’m not confident the government has the proper structure to do so.
Basically, they mismanage what they do today, so why should I conclude they can handle additional responsibilities tomorrow? More money doesn’t fix existing problems. Fix the problems first, get your existing budget in line, address the current responsibilities adequately, and that’s evidence you’ll do a good job with more.
Sounds a lot like Texas in the winter.
Exactly. I’m watching to see what northern TX is getting now wondering how bad it gets.
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Balkanize
I feel like the USA may start to be disbanding
Unfortunately, balkanization may be our only option at this point.
We need an East Rome West Rome split but its blue state vs red state. Each get their own President, pool Military powers
Or maybe nix the president position and just have the house and senate vote for everything like a council.
Ditch the senate and bump the house to like 1500 members imo.
Keep the Senate, bump the house to like 1500
It should be actually, if not for the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929, based on the 1910 census.
At the time the average was 210,000 constituents per representative, now we’re over 770,000 per representative. And those are averages, some districts are much higher and lower.
Congress set the current limit, they can change it. It doesn’t require an amendment or anything complicated.
Yeah but why would they dilute their power?
The most obvious would be to prevent the exact situation we’re in now. But that would also require more than a handful of them to not be psycho/sociopaths.
After a century of coups and destabilisation efforts around the world, the empire will crumble from within (nothing new tbh). How poetic!
Viva Alta California






