Rant warning!
I mean I just quit a office call, the share screen ribbon wouldn’t disappear, opened task manager to kill it nope not found, finally had to select a “quit teams” option from start window. Note this is still windows 10.
Further the entire teams app is sloppy, when I start listing, the enter works but within the same message (when unintended) I have to ensure I click shift+enter to enter a new line. I can’t choose between enter and shift+enter.
A few questions now:
- why/how do these guys design a product this way
- Does it mean Microsoft can keep running any app which necessarily doesn’t appear on my task manager?


I don’t see your argument against teams.
It sounds like:
“It’s all together in one place, how dare they.”
At this point I don’t even bother using the desktop version of outlook, the web app is easier for emails and my calendar is in teams.
You act like cloud services are bad, they aren’t. If they were terrible, people would be switching away from them. They’re adding value beyond their cost and everyone knows it.
Could Microsoft be better at some things? Sure.
But they’re already far better than the alternative, which is a janky ass system of 30 different products from 30 different vendors.