Damn right. And the Nixos community forums are full of people unwilling to accept this. They will gaslight you into thinking you’re the problem. “Just do this”, as I’d it’s completely obvious and you’re dumb for not realising that. Of course if they find out you have some ideological incompatibility with them, you’re out anyway.
NIXOS really needs a fork. One that embraces or rejects flakes outright. One that stops inviting ideological battles. And one that embraces documentation.
That’s impossible IMHO. Nix is fundamentally about doing things “the right way”, and so there will always be disagreements about what “the right way” is. I think they are bound to be eventually settled on the best possible answer, you don’t need a fork for that.
If only the battles were about software. They are about unrelated beliefs and political ideologies. I’d very much prefer ideological battles about software trust me.
I mean, you don’t really need a fork for that. Anyone who’s motivated to actually improve the situation here, can just write appropriate documentation.
I guess, a fork would give you a new name, and therefore a clean slate where there’s not loads of contradicting information already out there. But yeah, that’s also a lot of work…
Well, I’m not in Microslop platforms, so that’s going to be difficult.
Second, the way things work in the current nix/nixos community make it easy to create a PR but very difficult to get it merged. Attempts at writing documentation are nitpicked to death, unless you belong to the privileged class of the documentation team or have merge rights on Microslop’s Github.
A fork would also give an attempt at forming a new community with different rules and focus.
I haven’t yet found out where its major differences lie. And it seems like they haven’t taken a firm stance on flakes (yes or no). They also only forked the interpreter, not nixpkgs. A good step, but their documentation wasn’t good, the last time I checked.
Damn right. And the Nixos community forums are full of people unwilling to accept this. They will gaslight you into thinking you’re the problem. “Just do this”, as I’d it’s completely obvious and you’re dumb for not realising that. Of course if they find out you have some ideological incompatibility with them, you’re out anyway.
NIXOS really needs a fork. One that embraces or rejects flakes outright. One that stops inviting ideological battles. And one that embraces documentation.
That’s impossible IMHO. Nix is fundamentally about doing things “the right way”, and so there will always be disagreements about what “the right way” is. I think they are bound to be eventually settled on the best possible answer, you don’t need a fork for that.
If only the battles were about software. They are about unrelated beliefs and political ideologies. I’d very much prefer ideological battles about software trust me.
I mean, you don’t really need a fork for that. Anyone who’s motivated to actually improve the situation here, can just write appropriate documentation.
I guess, a fork would give you a new name, and therefore a clean slate where there’s not loads of contradicting information already out there. But yeah, that’s also a lot of work…
Well, I’m not in Microslop platforms, so that’s going to be difficult.
Second, the way things work in the current nix/nixos community make it easy to create a PR but very difficult to get it merged. Attempts at writing documentation are nitpicked to death, unless you belong to the privileged class of the documentation team or have merge rights on Microslop’s Github.
A fork would also give an attempt at forming a new community with different rules and focus.
You are thinking of the better alternative, guix
I’m not that much a fan of brackets and jumping through hoops to install anything non-GNU.
There are forks of Nix. Perhaps you might like Lix.
I haven’t yet found out where its major differences lie. And it seems like they haven’t taken a firm stance on flakes (yes or no). They also only forked the interpreter, not nixpkgs. A good step, but their documentation wasn’t good, the last time I checked.