What the actual heck is happening to the internet. It feels like it is being destroyed at a breakneck pace.
“The 2030’s are going to be a reckoning for how much of the 21st century was built on the back of low interest rates.” See Adam Conover’s interview with Dan Olson of Folding Ideas.
The corporatization of the world feels like it’s coming to a head. You’re not allowed to own anything anymore. Everything is a subscription and it’s impossible to afford property. You just rent everything putting you on constant edge until you die.
I think companies have seen what happened with Twitter and it has convinced them that they can try more drastic revenue generation strategies with little repercussion. They have all become strong monopolies in their respective domains and users who have grown up with the current offerings are not willing to put up with lesser alternatives.
The internet is basically ~10 websites for most people, only occasionally veering off the path to find some one off information. The casual user sees no reason to put up with the growing pains of alternatives and will put up with a lot from Google and friends if it means not having to create a new account on another website with no content.
How can you possibly replace YouTube and Reddit? Their value is in their user base and it’s impossible to replicate that type of “success” overnight.
This is the fallout from the technology industry shrinking and coming to terms with itself. See the crash of the Silicon Bank recently as an example. Basically as the positive outlook toward these kind of businesses and pursuits continues to mellow out we’ll see these companies look inward to squeeze as much money out of their products as possible.
I feel like this is the best outcome because we’ve seen people address what really matters to them. People are switching to more local solutions. Engaging with communities they actually care about.
if youtube could win against adblockers, they wouldn’t need to get manifest v3 to destroy their functions. firefox users stay winning
They can go to extreme lengths to make it work, such as not playing the video if not adds are detected or embedding the ad directly into the video. Not even Firefox can escape those things.
there are ways to counter that like fetching an embed player and imposing that onto the page, or sending an api call that says the ad played, or vpn to a country without ads for a tiny portion of the loading process, etc
we proved that with twitch where you can still very much block ads despite all they’ve done to avoid it
If they inject it into the main stream itself is it possible to block it? I don’t really see how.
well some countries legally have no ads and you could vpn to them specifically for the video fetching part and get the adfree version. alternatively things like maybe an AI powered sponsorblock extension could be created in response
And so the global enshittification grows…
Fuck em. I’ll use nebula.
Begun the ad wars have
Into exile, ads must go
the rise of the ad blocker blocker blockers begins.
Not… So… Fast… We shall counter with our ad blocker blocker blocker blockers!
I guess this will be an unpopular opinion, but YouTube is justified in doing this imo. Video hosting isn’t cheap, especially providing 4K & 8K. They’ve gotta be able to support costs somehow, and if you’re not paying for Premium, you should be paying with ads. You’re also preventing the content creators from being compensated for content that you find valuable, useful, and/or entertaining.
I know ads are annoying, and I hate them just as much as you do. But a big reason why we have people who make super niche videos that help you learn how to fix something on your car or those regular videos that you watch every week is because the creators are able to get compensated for their work. Are you really saying that utility and entertainment isn’t worth 30 seconds of ads and it’s better to not support them at all?
Part of the reason we’re in this enshittification era of social media is because of the expectation of social media to be free. We need to learn from our past mistakes. It’s not sustainable.
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May I ask why? That seems unsustainable to expect to be able to get the same amount of entertainment and utility from creators without helping compensate them.
Also, I would argue monetization has had to increase because of people using adblockers and the Silicon Valley mentality of “grow first, make money later.” Now that interest rates are high, social media companies are being forced to make money wherever they can since money isn’t cheap anymore.
If this is purely companies already being profitable and trying to just suck as much money as possible from their user base, then I would agree with you. But Twitter has been rumored for months to be close to having their lights shut off, and Reddit apparently isn’t profitable. Idk about YouTube, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re not profitable and/or wouldn’t be able to exist without Google being its parent company today due to their other businesses diversifying their revenue streams.
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That makes sense. Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective.
There are plenty of viewers who don’t want/need/care about the resolution. Especially not 8K, probably not even 4K. People who watch on their phone, probably won’t even notice if the content doesn’t go above 720p.
Anyway, if YT wishes to charge for their service, they should try having more reasonable fees, and making sure fees actually remove all ads from the service, and actually reward creators fairly - they get much less than they should as a proportion of fees paid.
As it stands, it is much better to subscribe to the likes of Nebula or to individual creators through Patreon (if they host their videos there). The bill might end up adding up to something similar or even more than YouTube Premium, but at least you get what you paid for and the money goes to the creators, not to line Google’s executive’s pockets, which in the end means better content, better platforms and a better viewing experience.
Yeah, I kind of agree on this. The real question is: is YouTube currently profitable, and they’re trying to squeeze even more out of users?
It would be nice if companies could look at a tidy profit and just say “that’s enough” and leave it be. Alas, that’s not how capitalism operates…
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How exactly are they going after Invidious?
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Thanks for the link👍
I pay for YouTube premium, and use a YouTube blocker. I’ve been seeing weird issues. It’s pissing me off. I feel like this is nearly lawsuit territory if they don’t resolve it.
I have Premium plus I use uBlock and have never had a problem.
ah, ok, i will simply not watch youtube videos.
