Came across this on the r/selfhosted community. Still very much in the alpha stages, but it’s already got a Docker image you can try out for yourself, or try out the demo server.
Tried it earlier today, couldn’t get the voice/video chat to work right away on my self-hosted setup but the real-time chat was very snappy. Looks promising.
Keep in mind that this project is likely vibe coded, or at least seems very AI assisted. (Copilot is mentioned in the
.gitignorefile and this was built by a single person in about 4 months) A bunch of security issues have already been opened.Edit: @just_another_person@lemmy.world already mentioned this, my bad. 😄
And I got downvoted into oblivion for bringing it up 🤣
I suppose tone matters when trying to get your point across. 😄
Neh
While I appreciate the effort devs put into making open source alternatives to a closed source app, the naming convention is really starting to get irritating…
Discord splits out to
- Armcord
- Legcord
- Now Sharkord
YouTube has
- InnerTune
- Which turned into OuterTune
Libre-this, Libre-that, Libre-cock and balls.
…I would love for devs to separate their software’s name just a little bit more from the thing they’re trying to replace. Please. Just be more unique. The name can still have a nod to what it’s replacing and not just be a partial modification to the original name.
Reminds me of the guy in that show Silicon Valley who was basically a plant / spy (Jianyang?), and his grand visions for all his apps were creatively named:
“Chinese Facebook, Chinese Instagram, Chinese Twitter. . .”
Lol
Datcord
Libre-cock and balls
<actual LOL>
libre adjective With very few limitations
Stoat.chat, anyone?
Oh woah, didn’t realize it was self-hostable. I’ll try it out!
Aside from
- iso27002 violations
- FHS violation
It looks good!
I honestly didn’t know what these were.
These are very simplistic but iso27002 violations are security procedures not being documented properly. The FHS one refers to not following the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard on Unix‑like systems.
Why does the second one bother me more?
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We’re here to break the law anyway, so, meh
Haven’t had a chance to really look into it, but there’s also spacebar chat which is an open source selfhosted reimplementation of the discord backend that can be used with existing discord clients and bots and stuff. Which depending on how solid the rest of if is, could really help existing discord people move with less effort.
Saw that earlier too, planning to check it out!
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Why use this over Matrix?
The user experience for matrix is absolutely dog shit. Anyone who says otherwise is huffing copium.
I have been setting up matrix servers and testing every desktop and mobile client. I cannot present this to my discord group as an alternative.
Drop-in voice channels are a requirement for a discord alternative, Matrix does not have them. AFAIK you still need to call an entire channel to start a voice chat.
Im surprised as how many people discount this feature. Sometimes I sit in voice chat in my small Discord server alone for hours because nobody would show up if nobody was around.
We’re all adults with jobs and responsibilities and shit, we don’t want to have to dial people in to shoot the shit late at night. That would feel like a chore.
An alternative with no drop in voice chat is a non starter for my group.
I think it comes from the fact that a lot of communities and projects use Discord basically like they would with IRC, with voice chats often not even existing in some servers. I have to assume the people who recommend Matrix are only ever in that kind of server.
I’m in 2 or 3 servers with different friend groups and of course each one is full of friends of friends of friends. Even the smallest is over 30 people, but I only regularly join VC with 3-4. If I had to call all of them to be in a voice call I would literally never do it.
Same goes for chats, in Matrix the closest things to channels and servers is rooms and spaces. The difference is that you don’t join a space, you just view rooms in the space and join them. Most of my servers have a ton of different channels for different things, I want to be able to see what happens in all of them without having to join each one, announcing to them that I’ve joined.
I like Matrix for FOSS project discussions, but I don’t think it’ll ever be the right pick for just hanging out with friends.
As much as I want to love matrix, it is a huuuuge pain to set up & maintain.
This is so vibecoded 🤣 Nawthx
Based on what? A quick peek and I didn’t see any of the stuff I expect from LLMs
Less than a 4 month commit history and one dev. Not impossible maybe, but sure is suspect.
I’ve built projects of the size in 5-7 months before we had LLM or ML coding tools.
With tabbed completion (Which most devs enjoy), and before full LLM code gen, 4-6 months.
With llm assistance, not vibe coding, it’s possible to build projects like this in 1 to 2 months without sacrificing quality or safety. If you are an experienced engineer and have built projects like this before. A lot of these are boring, boilerplate, stuff.
So the time spent doesn’t necessarily say that it’s vibe coded but if this is an inexperienced engineer then it very well might be and may be full of holes and issues.
Absolutely not impossible for a skilled dev with lots of free time. This is still an Alpha after all.
Completely agree. If this is a skilled Dev who’s built products like this before and you can build something like this in your afternoons and weekends in like 6 months without LLM tool assistance.
With basic assistance you can definitely cut that time down to 4 months or less easily.
And if this is a full-time project, you can probably get it out the door in 1 to 2 months with llm assistance. (Not vibe coding, two very different things)
Building the full stack of a functional real-time voice and video comms system as a lone dev is not a trivial undertaking.
Even if they put 40/wk or more into it, I’d still be impressed. Like I said, not impossible but these people are rare.
Lolwut??? Did you check the GitHub at all?
