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      I’ve definitely seen stuff break because of an update to arch. there was an issue a while back where KDE plasma and xorg together would cause taskbar icons to be absolutely massive. a subsequent update fixed that.

      the thing is, if my gaming PC is unusable, it’s not a big deal cause I don’t need it for anything. that’s why I run arch on it

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        Interesting. I’ve been running Arch/KDE for years and never saw that bug. I use Arch on almost everything.

        Steam Deck comes with kinda-Arch, I use Arch for work now, I use it on my gaming PC. The only thing that doesn’t run it is my home server because it sits in a corner and doesn’t need bleeding edge updates or the AUR.

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    If you keep your Arch Linux system updated it shouldn’t break. I have been using Arch as my daily driver for close to a year now, and have been updating it at least weekly. The times that it did break for me (which is only 1-2 times), it didn’t break because of an update, but because of my stupidness.

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    The “Arch breaks all the time” people have obviously never used Arch.

    I’ve run Arch as a daily driver for the last 4 and a half years and haven’t had any issues. I’ve tried Pop_OS twice in that time and had install-breaking issues within a week in both cases.

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      🔥 🔥 🔥

      🍿

      YMMV

      I run Manjaro with KDE on X11… I use a lot of mouse gestures, so I can’t sit with Wayland.

      • I found the SYSTEM is extremely stable for ME. It is important to say this every time…

      • I find KDE is often less stable… I had at least 2 issues I couldn’t explain/understand and just fixed with restoring contents of .config from snapshots.

      This is one area where Manjaro ‘held back’ and did actually save us from a lot of the bleeding edge (5.26 was a rough ride)… but that’s not an ‘Arch’ issue, that’s a ‘KDE’ issue.

      But the USER likes to tip the boat until it does a barrel roll, or sinks entirely… and this is mostly what divides the happy users. Sometimes it’s just basic hardware, sometimes it’s the USER habits/modus operandi.

      So we have Snapshots, and we have rsync backups to a mounted drive… Then it matters not - a quick restart fixes most issues, and a reinstall takes only 6 minutes with no data lost -> in backups.

      That’s stable enough for me.

      BTW, I use AUR quite a lot - and it never actually caused me an issue, other than some stuff needing rebuilds.

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      I used arch for 1.5 years and it did break a lot. Though I did use nvidia, so it was to be expected.

      Switched to Nixos yesterday because it was kind of anxiety-inducing knowing my main computer was sitting on a time bomb that only got worse as time went on, as I toyed with the system more and more

      Absolutely loved arch though, and I hope I’ll love nix as well

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    I love Arch, been using it for a few years now. So far the only update that really caused me some trouble was that whole Grub bootloader thing that happened a while ago.

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    Is it just me who chuckles when all the peeps here confirm the meme by their “BuT Me ArCh NeVeR bRoKe” posts all super serious and not at all a little butthurt? <Insert trollface>

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    Imma be real… Arch has been the most consistent system I’ve used to date.

    I’ve been using linux off and on since like 2008. I jumped around from ubuntu, fedora, opensus, popOS, centOS, etc… I’ve had manjaro and now arch as my daily driver for probably 4 or more years now and Arch updates have only ever broke one thing, one time, and it was more of a audio pipewire issue than it was really archs fault.

    arch updates do not deserve this slander, its been very reliable for me, more than probably any system i’ve ever used.

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    the subtle difference is that distros like Pop try hard to aim at home computer normie users or new to Linux, Arch doesn’t. 99% of Arch fault cases are also user’s fault.

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    What the heck are you guys doing? I’ve been using Arch for over 5 years on many different computers and an update has never broken my system. I was even impressed that I was able to update my desktop with NVIDIA graphics after 6 months of it being unplugged.

    Are you sure you installed the system correctly at all?

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    I’ll take rolling updates over twice a year major release upgrades any day. My experience with Centos and Ubuntu was that anytime I needed to upgrade the OS, I had to spend a few hours fixing random stuff. Never had a problem with Arch that I couldn’t fix.

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    Nice meme.

    From what I know about these distros (Debian, sometimes Fedora user here), Pop is targeted for “normal” home users, while Arch has traditionally been for hackers. From that point of view, it makes sense that breaking the former would be seen as less acceptable for the wider community.

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      I would say pop is for new users, arch is for users that know what they want and willing to put in the time, i wouldnt say its “for hackers”.

      picking an arch based distros thats already built for you though is the easy way to go if you want a linux system for gaming. I tried using pop for a while. it was ok but ultimately a rolling release system was better.

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    well, you don’t complain when your hammer does a shit job at driving a screw. (well, maybe you do, but thats on you)

    One is consumer focused,
    the other is bleeding edge.