French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday, February 14, urged calm and restraint after the fatal beating of a 23-year-old French youth aligned with the far-right on the sidelines of a conference by a hard-left lawmaker in the southeastern city of Lyon.

The death of the young man – identified only as Quentin – has intensified tensions between France’s far-right and radical left who are both eyeing 2027 presidential elections.

He had been hospitalized in Lyon on Thursday after being attacked while providing what his supporters said was security for a protest against an appearance by hard-left MEP Rima Hassan at the Lyon branch of the Sciences Po university.

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    Why do you think this is what they believe?

    The more specifics you can use, the better.

    Ex: Instead of saying “Literally by holding the opinion that people like myself shouldn’t exist,” can you tell me what that opinion actually is? I’m not even sure what you mean by “people like yourself.”

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      I don’t know how much clearer that can be. Their opinion is that I shouldn’t exist. Or that I should die. Or that we should move towards a world where people like me don’t exist.

      I don’t see what my identity has to do with this. Whether I’m a cis-het white male or bipoc gay trans, those opinions are equally problematic.

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        Their opinion is that I shouldn’t exist.

        Right here. This is where you can make it clearer. What is making you think that is their opinion? And just to clarify, by ‘exist’ do you mean they want you dead, or just out of sight?

        I don’t see what my identity has to do with this.

        When you say “people like yourself,” how is anyone supposed to know what you’re talking about?

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          You generally learn of people’s opinions when they tell you their opinions. Not that this is relevant in this discussion. The point is that targeting people who hold such opinions is what it means to “treat the symptoms” in this context. Figuring out who holds such opinions is a different matter.

          How is my exact identity relevant? Do you think it’s more acceptable to get rid of one group of people versus another? As long as they don’t infringe on other people’s right to live, everyone should have an equal right to live their life.

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            Man, it’s really crazy watching the mental gymnastics you’re willing to play just to avoid giving a direct answer.

            You must not be too confident in your stance if you have to beat around the bush like this whenever you’re asked to give details.

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        Yes? People get shot and killed all the time for all sorts of different reasons.

        What are you trying to argue? You can be direct about it instead of trying to play leapfrog with yourself.

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          Congrats, you play stupid real fucking stupid, stupid.

          Fuck off, I see what you’re doing. I’m done interacting with this high school debate idiocy.

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            Ok, just making sure you couldn’t directly articulate why you think they want “people like you” to die. Maybe next time don’t make the claim if you’re going to run away the moment it’s scrutinized.

            I’m done interacting with this high school debate idiocy.

            You wouldn’t survive on a high school debate team.