It’s not just about the trade war. Nearly half of America’s neighbors to the north now think the U.S. is a bigger threat to world peace than Russia.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/60675401
Archive article: https://archive.is/FmFAC#selection-647.1-647.51
I think Americans also hate America this much.
Edit:
Since there’s an asshole starting shit in these comments: for you guys outside of America, I want one thing to be clear. We do not like having Trump as president. He ran saying he’d bring down costs for poorer families, but instead has ran a straight-up terror campaign.
The second thing is that America has a two party system. You’ve most likely heard this fact stated, but may not know what it means. America’s politics effectively give you two parties to vote for and anyone running as one of the “other parties” is wholly for posterity to take votes away from one of the two major candidates. This two party system was effectively bought by major corporations like Amazon. Corporations and “Special interest groups” (rich people) are able to lobby (bribe politicians) over-the-board to get what they want.
The big kicker is gerrymandering: these political leaders who take “lobbying” pick and choose districts. Long-story-short: this is what really decides elections. Instead of these being “squares” of land, lawmakers divvy up their states (our states are as large as European countries in both population and land size; there are 50 not counting all the countries we occupy like Australia or territories like Puerto Rico because they don’t voter) in their own party’s interest.
There is no way for a new party to rise like any other country in the world because they don’t ever have enough money to out market these two bigger parties. Even our 4 leaders (2 leaders per party per house and senate which are like one parliament based off of population size and one fucked up “equal” one) are chosen based on money.
Our politicians are corrupt, and they make the rules. There is not a lot Americans can really do, especially with the president having Americans killed. ICE is a para-military force that’s killed more people in 2025 than it had in its entire history; it’s not just the two news sites are reporting. Even our state representatives and senates/houses are afraid. They’re essentially afraid of this becoming Iran.
And a lot of Americans are prepping to flea. A lot of us have set up dual citizenships.
It’s not great.
As an American, I can confirm this.
Do they hate it enough to do something about the orange child rapist and the enablers that are causing all this?
Do I want to die? No.
Best I can do is wish them death and in the meantime voice my disapproval in peaceful protests and repeatedly demanding more of my representation AND fellow constituents when it comes to enforcing laws.
I mean, what do you want us to do about it? What do you think it’s like having said child rapist as your leader when you didn’t vote for him? He has his own military force running around rounding people up and killing others. The news has only just covered 2 of them. 2025 saw more deaths due to ICE than its entire history.
It’s not the people you should point the finger at either. Do you even know the term “Gerrymandering?” Look it up. These elections are determined 16 years beforehand AND now Trump is trying to rewrite district lines so that Republicans have more districts that are even more partisan. On top of that, he’s threatening voters with violence. He’s already threatened to send military to voting stations.
On top of all of that, I don’t care what country you’re from, America has a different political system than ANY other country in the world. I don’t think even most Americans understand this. America’s two party system is ruled by money and bribes (we call these brides “lobbying”). Basically, corporations give money or trips or items to judges and politicians to get them to do what they want. And even our 4 party leaders (imagine you have 2 parliaments - one based off of population size for your state, and another where every state gets the same number of votes) are the leaders precisely because they have the most money that can be used for campaign ads. Oh yeah, don’t get me started on insider trading of our politicians. Everything I’ve described in this paragraph is 100% legal.
I’m not trying to tell people to not vote, but the truth is that in America, the land of the free and the land of democracy, our votes don’t matter, primarily because of the gerrymandering. So when you see Americans saying they’re fed up, don’t act like we aren’t fed up “enough.” We have people dying at protests. Our state level and local governments are looking at what happened in Iran and are waiting for Trump to do the same. He’s basically threatened it if any ICE agent dies.
system is ruled by money and bribes
are the leaders precisely because they have the most money that can be used for campaign ads
insider trading of our politicians.
threatening voters with violence.
people dying at protests.
Every single point here is also true about my own country, which is nowhere near the US.
America has a different political system than ANY other country in the world.
You’ve yet to see the rest of the world.
I suppose you’re right that your country is similar or has similarities. I’m not saying that other countries don’t have problems with their own governments or money. But that’s not what I was illustrating here. What I’m illustrating is why the fair elections turn out how they do. Would I say that Russia is less corrupt or less ruled by money? No. Ukrain? Obviously not.
What I’m illustrating is that America, despite being “the land of the free,” is very much not free. And this idea that all Americans are at fault for Donald being elected isn’t true. About 47% of its population didn’t vote for him (before you say anything I do understand how elections work) and now he is tearing our republic/democracy apart.
And yes, it always looks from outsider perspectives that Americans are not studied or that we don’t travel or that we don’t pay attention to outside politics. We do. Believe me. So when I say we have a very different political system, I’d argue it’s true. And it’s true for every other country. No political system (or even government) is the same. And we are all just as helpless as each other. Like, in America we don’t have parties sprouting up like Russia, Germany, Australia, etc. we don’t have a dictatorship like Russia, North Korea. We don’t have three separate countries inside of one like the UK - we have over 50. It’s like if the EU was one country.
So it doesn’t help that you’re assuming I don’t pay attention outside my boarders. We literally just invaded Venezuela and kidnapped their leader (without our congress agreeing to it, which is required by law). America has so much power in world politics. We have military bases spread across the world; it wouldn’t even require us dispatching troops from America to stage a coup in another country. And we’ve already done it or tried to do it: look at the Philippines or Cuba (Bay of Pigs as we call it) or literally anywhere in the Middle East. I would be an idiot to not pay attention. It’s fucking scary.
And to give you another example, these corporations that I’m talking about don’t just mess with my economy and government. These chip shortages you’re seeing, that’s the companies in my country causing them. China not exporting chips that are used for cars anymore? That’s America’s fault.
What I’m illustrating is that America, despite being “the land of the free,” is very much not free.
It isn’t and never was.
So it doesn’t help that you’re assuming I don’t pay attention outside my borders.
No, I didn’t say that. I felt as if you were saying the problems of bribery, corruption, unfair elections, systemic violence by government on its citizens are unique problems of the US government. It isn’t, we have also seen them, and I do sympathise with American people facing these things.
we are all just as helpless as each other.
People have power. Even the most oppressed people have fought for themselves, and in many cases, have won.
Alright. So one, that’s literally America’s mantra. 2, that’s literally how you ended your last comment. 3, you’re just moving the goalpost. Instead of pretending to be arguing in good faith when this wasn’t even supposed to be an argument, just leave the comment section. What’s the point starting shit on a post that’s already a day old? If this is fun for you, maybe you should try Reddit.
what do you want us to do about it?
Something. Anything. Because doing almost fucking nothing while saying that you can’t do anything isn’t working, and will bring you back less than nothing.
Also, haha, don’t try to play yourselves off as the victims here. Your country has had decades to not have a shit voting system or war mongering government/ruling class but time and fucking time again you guys just accept that bullshit with glee.
Other countries, and the people from those countries that are being hurt and killed, don’t have that ability to vote in your country. They are the real victims in all of this.Plus you’ve had centuries of the 2nd amendment, thus giving you the right and ability to rise up against tyrants. Well tyrants are there right now and all the rest of the world is seeing are crickets, tumbleweeds, memes, excuses, and performances. Doing nothing is an affront to all those dead kids in all those school shootings because, for decades and decades, it was "Yeah, those dead kids in those school shootings were unfortunate, but we need our guns in case of {insert bullshit reason here}”. Well in stumbles a bumbling, dementia riddled, pants shitting, orange child raping, corrupt russian stooge of a tyrant and what happens…nothing. Fuck all.
NO, you don’t get to play the victim.
You’re silent bystanders at best, NOT victims.
Maybe I’ll agree that you are traumatised and abused bystanders, but not real victims. No way.“People feel threatened, and some are being killed on our streets by our government.”
So fuck. People are being threatened and killed by your government that are in entirely different streets in entirely different countries. And on the open seas.
Fucks sake.I love how you’re just an asshole
Please try to avoid politico. It belongs to the right-wing conservative Springer publishing house (Axel Springer SE), which is trying to become a European Fox News.
US citizen here … the US is in fact a bigger threat than Russia. Our oligarchs are out of control and in dire need of a guillotine. Beware … seriously … beware. These people are fucking crazy.
It’s not just who’s in power. It’s who put them in power and who decided not to even vote cuz they apathetically thought it’s not their job to give a shit about life apparently and prefer to watch the world burn.
These asshats are on a new level of crazy I’m ashamed to know exists in humanity.
Elbows up, Canada. I’m so happy to see the Neighbors to the North take little shit from the Bully Cowards to the South.
Canadians can do a lot better.
Until I see bigger lineups at A&W (A&W Canada is actually 100% Canadian, no royalties or anything to the USA) than McDonalds, Burger King, etc, not even close to being a start on the way to good enough.
I can see lots of people checking labels, but we need to get back to “US apples rotting on Canadian shelves” levels of action again. I want to hear more about US businesses begging Canadians to come back. I want to hear Trump threatening Canada for being anti-America. I want it to be crystal clear where Canada stood.
A&W has better food than other fast food joints, and this has been the case for years. If my family eats fast food it is always the teen burger.
I highly recommend Guard the Leaf on YouTube (yes I know).
He features what you’re looking for all the time.
Thanks for the tip!
You’re not seeing as much US produce rotting because less places are buying it now. Last winter we were still dealing with having to not choose US oranges, but this winter the grocers have found alternatives. I’ve had plenty of South African oranges and cantaloupe this winter.
That’s fair I’ve seen a lot more non-US produce lately. But there is still a fuck-ton of it on the shelves. Apples and lettuce being two big offenders where I am. And…yams? Been dying for a goddamn yam for months but apparently only the US knows how to grow a damn yam.
There are great Canadian greenhouse lettuce growers putting out awesome product now. I hope we can see those guys selling out while the $4.99 head of lettuce from Ameristan turns brown waiting for a buyer that never comes.
Choices matter people. Every single one.
The good news is, some airlines are canceling flights to the Untied States due to lack of demand
I don’t get “elbows up”?
In hockey you keep your elbows up to guard against getting knocked around when the game gets rough.
Ah, makes sense. Thank you.
American here.
Me too.
It’s because, as a culture, the place is chockablock full of highly dangerous morons that are totally out of control.
The country is led by a pedophile rapist murderer. That’s who they chose to rule them because they are that fucking stupid and crazy.
And sure half of them are like “Oh what can we do?” Nothing apparently, especially when you CANT ALLOW YOURSELF TO ACCEPT THAT ITS YOUR MESS TO FIX.
Fucking get your shit together
And the “bOtH SidEs ArE tHe SaMe” crowd can take a proper punch to the head too right about now. In fact they are long over fucking due.
I mean, i get the argument that they are both beholden to the same billionaires.
But yeah only one of them would happily kill civilians for cash.
Canada, join us in Europe! We like you.
As an American I thought it would be much worse. 75% or more. We have been shitty neighbors. Seriously, threats, tariffs, insults, etc.
Honestly… all the USA “peacekeeping” was always by protecting their interests in oil.
Canada only liked the USA cuz they gave us a free pass for being their evil little sidekick.
Ah yes, the oil rich countries of Afghanistan and Vietnam.
Can’t even blame you. Even if we suddenly fixed our crack head behavior one day then what? Are there still cultural forces that will lead us to just start stealing the wires out of the world’s walls in 4 years? How long until until “somehow crackheads returned”?
It wasn’t supposed to be like this. We were raised to be different from the dumb shit that came before. I wanted to be a good neighbor and build a future that didn’t seem shitty to bring kids into.
As a US citizen myself, I can’t blame them. I also hate this country.
Fake News! Your great President, ME! has been the most peaceful President in the HISATORY OF THE COUNTRY. 8 WARS SOLVED - TRUMP, MANY MORE PREVENTED -TRUMP. Even the winner of the last Noble Peace Prize says TRUMP should have won it. Lowest crime in 150 years. Strongest Boarder in HISTORY. I even won the NEWEST, MOST UP TO DATE PEACE PRIZE. None of this would have happened under CROOKED JOE BIDEN, the worst and MOST CORRUPT President ever. The FCC should look into this ENTIRELY CORRUPT and BIASED FAKE NEWS organization. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump
-@RealDonaldTrump
Dare I ask… Is that real?
Ugh. I hate what we’ve become.
As an American, I hate America even more.
Yeah, save yourselves buddy. One day hopefully you can treat us like the fucked up ex-addict we hopefully will be.
I’m a US Citizen and I also currently think the US is a bigger threat to world peace. (Sorry Ukraine!)
