The attackers’ ability to spare newly established adjacent facilities (such as the Martyr Absalan clinic) and their glaring failure to avoid an elementary school operating at full capacity and packed with 170 girls leaves us with two scenarios, both unequivocally condemnatory: Either US and Israeli forces relied, in striking the vicinity of the Asif Brigade, on a very old, outdated intelligence target bank (dating to before 2013), which would constitute grave negligence and reckless disregard for civilian lives; or the strike was carried out deliberately and with prior knowledge to inflict maximum societal shock and undermine popular support for Iran’s military establishment.

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    Well we all know that the terrorist state of Israel hates middle eastern kids and US is kind of in a moronic state right now. So 2+2=4

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    Yep but given the elites lining up behind this from the news cheering it to Britain, Germany, NATO,Canada and France are aligning with the US blatantly and supporting this with base sharing rhetorical support.

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      Our governments, at least Canada and UK are very zionist. They are supporting zionism, don’t get that mixed up with the perfect excuse that was handed to them.

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    How would this attack “undermine popular support for Iran’s military establishment”?

    I think one of the reasons for this was to stir up protests here in the U.S., so they have an excuse to take over the mid-term elections, and perhaps start marshal law.

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      A common belief amongst some people, right or wrong, is that if you hurt someone badly enough they’ll do what you want because that path becomes less painful.
      Those people believe that sending the message “war with the US means all your children die” will result in people furiously demanding that their military stop fighting to prevent the killing.

      It’s quite literally the abuser mindset but applied to nations. “I wouldn’t have to hurt you if you had just done what I said”.
      This fits with who’s in power.

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        Yeah, but the US and Israeli militaries in specific are well aware of how bad optics make a military campaign harder. They’re not those people.

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        And to finish the point, it failed in ww2 strategic civilian bombing and itll fail here.

        It just doesnt work. At least the uk in ww2 didnt have dresden in history books to know better.

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          It did work in Japan though. But better don’t tell them how far they’ll have to go for it to have effect.

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            It actually didn’t. The carpet bombing and flattening of cities didn’t make the population want to give up or turn on the military.
            The first nuclear weapon didn’t either.
            The second made the emperor inclined to surrender, when paired with a declaration of war by the Soviet Union.

            The civilian population never posed a significant threat to the stability of the military or imperial rule.

            People aren’t generally idiots, and will lean towards supporting the people fighting the people who are hurting them. You may not like them, and you may want them to do something else, but you’re unlikely to trust the party that is currently trying to kill you.

            “Take off your armor and we’ll stop shooting” just isn’t a compelling argument.

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      Yeah, killing civilians only makes people fight harder, and the US knows this. If it was them responsible, it was a screw up.

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        What you’re missing is that they want the people to fight them so they have an excuse to attack them more. And these excuses work retroactively too. They bomb, wait for a retaliation, then they say “see, we were right to bomb them,” followed by an even bigger attack. Repeat till there’s nothing left to bomb.