• 7112@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Is “AI” even worth it?

    Seriously, is there really a major use case for LLM besides data collection (which they can still do without LLM)?

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      11 hours ago

      In a perfect, utopian world, yes. AI can go a lot of good. In the world that we are living in? No.

      But it’s still good to keep an eye on what people are using AI to do, and how their capability is evolving. Even if you hate AI. If anything, so you can be prepare for what’s to come.

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        11 hours ago

        When the product is a solution in search of a problem, keeping an open mind is a good way to get it stuffed full of garbage. I was told the same thing about NFTs and Metaverse and Blockchain: a radical benefit is just around the corner!

        If it arrives (huge if), it’ll be Big Tech’s job to explain it to us, and it should be very apparent

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          11 hours ago

          Keeping an eye on it doesn’t mean you need to think it’s a good thing. Keep an eye on it like how you would keep an eye on a developing hurricane or pandemic.

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            8 hours ago

            Touche. I apologize for responding to the argument I’ve seen elsewhere, not the one you were making.

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      10 hours ago

      I use LLMs for the following, you can decide for yourself if they are major enough:

      • Generating example solutions to maths and physics problems I encounter in my coursework, so I can learn how to solve similar problems in the future instead of getting stuck. The generated solutions, if they come up with the right answer, are almost always correct and if I wonder about something I simply ask.
      • Writing really quick solutions to random problems I have in python or bash scripts, like “convert this csv file to this random format my personal finance application uses for import”.
      • Helping me when coding, in a general way I think genuinely increases my productivity while I really understand what I push to main. I don’t send anything I could not have written on my own (yes, I see the limitations in my judgement here).
      • Asking things where multiple duckduckgo searches might be needed. E.g. “Whats the history of EU+US sanctions on Iran, when and why were they imposed/tightened and how did that correlate with Iranian GDP per capita?”

      What does this cost me? I don’t pay any money for the tech, but LLM providers learn the following about me:

      • What I study (not very personal to me)
      • Generally what kinds of problems I want to solve with code (I try to keep my requests pretty general; not very personal)
      • The code I write and work on (already open source so I don’t care)
      • Random searches (I’m still thinking about the impact of this tbh, I think I feel the things I ask to search for are general enough that I don’t care)

      There’s also an impact on energy and water use. These are quite serious overall. Based on what I’ve read, I think that my marginal impact on these are quite small in comparison to other marginal impacts on the climate and water use in other countries I have. Of course there are around a trillion other negative impacts of LLMs, I just once again don’t know how my marginal usage with no payment involved lead to a sufficient increase in their severity to outweigh their usefulness to me.

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      10 hours ago

      It’s a great way to poke at software looking for security holes en masse. Lots of vulnerabilities are ready to be exploited at scale with LLMs.

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        10 hours ago

        Perhaps, but see the tons of imagined issues raised on bug bounty sites by LLMs. Maybe it’s right sometimes, but it’s very often wrong!

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          10 hours ago

          You don’t have to be right 100% of the time when scanning for vulnerabilities. You only have to be right once. It’s a fundamentally different game.

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      12 hours ago

      consilidation of information, resources and potentially “the narrative”.

      oh, for the user you mean?

      • it can be better than the enshittified search machines unless the llm decides to lie
      • middle managers need to write less emails themselves
      • some programmers deem it enough to write some boilerplate code while deskilling themselves
      • scammers and slop creators love it