The Performing Right Society (PRS) has “commenced legal proceedings” against Steam owner Valve over the use of its members’ works on Steam “without permission.”

The organization claims that while games right across the spectrum use music to “transform play into emotional, immersive experiences,” Valve has “never obtained a licence for its use of the rights managed by PRS on behalf of its members, comprising songwriters, composers, and music publishers.”

PRS claims “many game titles which incorporate PRS members’ musical works are made available on Steam,” including “high profile series” such as Forza Horizon, FIFA/EA FC, and GTA.

PRS said that as it had sought to work with Valve about the licensing issues “for many years without appropriate engagement from Valve,” it has now issued legal proceedings under the UK’s s20 Copyright, Designs, and Patents Act 1988 and requires any game that uses PRS’ works to obtain a licence.

“The litigation will progress unless Valve Corporation engages positively with discussions and takes the necessary license to cover the use of PRS repertoire, both retrospectively and moving forwards,” the organization said in a press statement.

Dan Gopal, chief commercial officer, PRS for Music said: "Our members create music that enhances experiences and PRS exists to protect the value of their work with integrity, transparency, and fairness. Legal proceedings are not a step we take lightly, but when a business’s actions undermine those principles, we have a duty to act.

“Great video games rely on great soundtracks, and the songwriters and creators behind them deserve to have their contribution recognised and fairly valued.”

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    See, this is why I fucking hate copyright law. It’s so fucked and even though this is clearly fucking bogus, watch them find some kind of loophole and set a precedent

    Information should be free. It is as shackled as the rest of us under capitalism.

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    PRS claims “many game titles which incorporate PRS members’ musical works are made available on Steam,” including “high profile series” such as Forza Horizon, FIFA/EA FC, and GTA.

    Insanity. It’s like suing a grocery shop for selling the xyz branded milk for using their copyrighted font.

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      It’s like suing a grocery shop for selling the xyz branded milk for using their copyrighted font.

      I came here to make this exact point.
      The real reason they do it of course, is that Steam is big, and they can get more money from Steam if they win.
      Juries are very unpredictable in such cases. And that’s what they are playing on.

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        I mean many of those publishers, like it says in the article, are “high profile” and will have more than enough money to cover a music copyright issue.

        But suing Valve means you only need to sue 1 company instead of dozens, and it also makes Valve responsible for keeping the songs out of its entire library of tens of thousands of games.

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        brb suing VALVe to get 50 million, just so that I can send it back to GabeN and demand a deadline for HL3.

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        Juries are very unpredictable in such cases. And that’s what they are playing on.

        This is in the UK, except in very rare exceptions, we don’t have juries for civil matters.

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          Ok thanks, I assumed it was in USA, since Valve is American.
          Also frivolous suits tend to happen most in USA.

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        Theres also the factor of suing steam is like getting to sue all the ofenders at once without actually putting in the work to sue each individual studio that used the music.

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          Seeing that this is in UK, my guess is that if they try to take it to court, the court will simply throw the case out.

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        I’d like to say highly likely but upon reading a bit on what they are, it’s highly unlikely. They’re a union focusing on publishing right of music, so they definitely represent the owner of the music. But still insane.

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    They’re arguing it under section 20, probably this part

    the making available to the public of the work by electronic transmission in such a way that members of the public may access it from a place and at a time individually chosen by them.

    It looks like they’re arguing that by hosting the games valve are acting as a pirate MP3 site.

    I think they would have to prove that they did so knowingly, which can only really be done if they ignored takedown notices.

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    This was inevitable after valve caved to pressure from card processors. The sharks have smelt blood.

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      Gaben really just should’ve said “fuck you” to card processors and created his own PayPal-like system that doesn’t expose purchase data to card networks and is big enough that the networks can’t afford to lose them…

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    Wait what? Why would valve need to license the music? They’re not making the games…That should be the responsibility of the game studio or developer that makes the game that uses the music.

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    Now do physical game label printing organization lawsuit for decreased profit from enabling digital sales.

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    I have some experience in licensing music in the UK. it’s simple and cheap and it means the artists get paid (well the record labels, but that’s another problem)

    You paid a tiny amount of the profits you made after filling in the form which is pretty much just name and address and the tracks you used. It was something like £20 to play 5-10 songs for a three week run of a live show

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    Do these lawsuits backfire if the ones suing lose? Cuz this is very clearly not on valve to sort but the games. I’m guessing they are hoping to strike gold with 1 lawsuit as opposed to having to go after the game developers individually, who may just stop using their work in the future which valve can’t do… because they don’t use their work already.

    But is it just a case you made lawsuit you lost, oh well some lawyer fees and it’s over? Or do they have to pay valve for wasting their time and their legal expenses too?

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      It’s a common law court, the party that loses pays the majority of the others legal fees. In common law the risk of losing usually prevents stupid lawsuits.

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    Can’t they just leave the one company that’s been consistently good to its customers alone?

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    Copyrasts kick each other. I hope both sides will be harmed. A lot. Alas the customers will pay for any damage anyway, but at least it will be some show.