• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Datacenters are not just for AI.

    This is potentially worse than you’d immediately think. Literally everything that exists in “the cloud” is in a datacenter and is not exclusively AI. Remember when AWS went down and half the internet went down with it? Now imagine the datacenters actually got destroyed and it wasn’t just a software bug. Imagine if the datacenters went down for your bank account or healthcare provider. Sure this is only happening in the Middle East at the moment, but as we’ve been learning more and more these days, if it can happen “over there” it can happen here too. Wherever “here” may be, this can affect you.

    ETA: Added some words.

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      11 hours ago

      I pray that every single data center containing every single cloud based system is turned to ash.

      I want their systems of control and oppression to wither into dust.

      I do not want to live my life the way that it is now. I want for the insanity of 3000000000 accounts, all with my detailed personal info, circling about on the internet to end.

      There is a better way to organize the internet and by Zeus if we have to burn the internet and the financial world to do it, THEN LET US.

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      19 hours ago

      Could I imagine the data centers holding student loan debt, mortgages, and credit card debt also being destroyed? As a treat?

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        19 hours ago

        Yes, but they will also hold your bank account. Which for me would be a net positive so maybe you’re right lmao

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      1 day ago

      Maybe I got my history wrong, but that earlier philosophy of the Internet simply being a “web” of a bunch of interconnected computers/nodes felt like it was way more resilient.

      Data centers certainly still have their use, for storage and CDNs and whatnot, but I feel that the corporations’ usual lust for monopoly probably overcentralized our infrastructure, annnnd here we are where if anything happens to AWS or Azure or whatever, nobody can connect to anything.

      Corporate enterprise controlled networks are super lame.

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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        21 hours ago

        There may well be far more datacenters than you might be aware of. It is a pretty large web.

        But also, for larger companies, their onsite facilities are… a datacenter.

        Also, the thing about datacenters is that you need great and redundant connections with high capacity. It’s far better to have a bunch of datacenters than it is to have them all scattered around to companies everywhere.

        This recent push back against datacenters is, at least to some degree, fearmongering and using anti-AI sentiment to do so. A LOT of the information people are pushing is wrong.

        (That said, there are lots of valid concerns about some datacenters, and some projects are being done in harmful ways. I’m not completely pro-datacenter, but they are a large part of how the internet is run, and most of them have nothing to do with AI, and we’ve had them in large numbers for 25+ years… and we can always improve, sure)

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          13 hours ago

          AI isn’t the only bad thing about datacenters. The whole cloud movement is too. Putting all our data in the grubby hands of some American megacorps.

          • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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            8 hours ago

            And we… put all our gas into a few gas station brands.

            Amd again. Almost every single website is in a datacenter. You can be anti-cloud and don’t have to be anti-datacenter.

            I run a few websites on my server that I rent… in a datacenter. Because paying to run it from my home is impractical for any number of reasons.

            Datacenters are not a problem. Some things are, but not datacenters.

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              7 hours ago

              True but the cloud ones are. And there’s very few independent ones left. I used to rent a few colocation U’s for years with some SPARC servers as my private hosting but this kinda service is really rare now.