• Tolc@lemmy.zip
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    All this did was replaced khamenei with younger khamenei who is more radical and has nothing to loose (they killed his whole family)

    Not to forget innocent civilians which are bombed by them.

    On the other hand Israel has killed 800 lebanese people and have displaced 700k of them (10% of their entire population)

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      Israel learned from the “best”, don’t worry about the Lebanese, it’s just Lebensraum, it’s literally in the name!

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      I don’t get this whole “radical” word being used besides having been propagandised that way. Like, what does it even mean? How does it show up and why do you think it’s part of the calculations when deciding to bomb yet another for purely financial/imperialistic reasons? Is “radical” just the word Western propaganda uses for people who believe in something and act accordingly instead of just being amoral “pragmatists”?

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        Reports suggest he is not anti nuclear unlike his predecessor so in that aspect he is more anti west

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          Hope they get them or else the Judeo-Christian American alliance will just do the same in some months/years time. Also, nukes are general deterrents but since the only aggressor is America (plus Israel), ofc it would be “anti West”. 😅

          Who’s more “radical” than a society that was created through settler genocide, built by trafficked and enslaved, dominated the world through sheer horror and Khorne-like violence and even have the pleasure of being the only ones to ever use nuclear bombs? This word loses all meaning when it comes out of American imperialistic lips, it’s what I’m saying.

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          Radical means root (like in radishes). More radical means more focused on roots of the movement/core values. It has nothing to do with extremism per se. It’s trough overuse in propaganda, “radical extremist” started sounding like a tautology.

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        Are you telling me that if a country bombed and killed your whole family it would t make you hate that country or at the very least it’s leaders for doing so? You wouldn’t have ideation about getting revenge?

        How far you would take that depends on a lot of factors including your own personal temperament and personality, your belief system, and your ability and opportunity to get said revenge.

        The leader of a country definitely had ability and opportunity, especially when they are the country whose sovereignty has been violated.

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          Are you telling me that if a country bombed and killed your whole family it would t make you hate that country or at the very least it’s leaders for doing so? You wouldn’t have ideation about getting revenge?

          Of course, 100%, but that wouldn’t make me “radical” but just a regular person, a victim seeking justice, lol. Sadly, Iran doesn’t have the capacity to hurt America in earnest, it can only fight American forces and destroy their facilities in the region. Moreover, it just isn’t necessary and it would be a risky waste of Iranian lives. That’s never gonna be the move, they’re just gonna keep on trading amongst themselves (BRICS, Gulf countries) after the region is safer and not as much under American control (one day we’ll get rid of Israel, God willing) and wait America out.

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            America really does seem to think it’s untouchable but that propaganda is failing more and more each day. I think it’s probably not true that Iran can’t hurt us. I’m pretty sure they could to launch a full scale assault on American soil, but I honestly don’t think that matters in the long run. American needs those bases for Force Projection. It’s part of the strategy that makes America so “untouchable”. Iran has the capacity to do a lot of damage and that’s before taking into account other ways that Iran has traded blows with America in the past through less overt means.

            Iranian forces don’t just include their Coast Guard and military forces. Iran has been involved in quite a few state sponsored terrorist groups. Thats part of the reason the region is so volatile even in times of relative peace.

            Don’t get me wrong here, I’m also critical of Israel (even before the genocide) and America (I generally don’t approve of the way we destabilize regions, kill leaders in sovereign nations, and set up puppet regimes, nor am I fond of weapons deals orchestrated by us for those purposes).

            But as for the redicalization, I suspect that’s your idea of cutting the US and it’s allies out of trade and other economic deals would be the more moderate and less radical move but I don’t know that that’s what will happen now that this dudes whole family got napalmed.

            The idea that you can’t be a victim and still be readicalized is interesting. Just because you can empathize/sympathize with a person and the trauma they gave suffered doesn’t mean that they aren’t radicalized.

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    Once again, US domestic concerns led to a foreign war of fear that backfires as soon as it starts. The real casualty however are those killed men, women and children under the direction of US and Israeli leaders. Do we not think that those families will be angry and seek revenge?

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      Did they actually have domestic concerns though?

      It looks more like their Dictator wanted to start another war (possibly to distract from his many crimes, or to distract from his domestic racist death squads, or to raise his side’s standing in the upcoming elections, or to distract as he works to rig said election), and did so because nobody can stop him.

      It seems to be very effective, people are paying huge amounts of attention to this, especially those who were on his side but starting to rethink their position given the continued fallout of the Files. Many of them have instead focused on him as a strong no nonsense wartime leader, which was, I suspect, the plan.

      Anyway, just a reminder that a few weeks ago he also promised to use his military to annex a European NATO nation if it didn’t surrender in full to him and cede itself to be annexed.

      Given that he’s started two crazy wars this year already, it would be unwise not to take him seriously when he threatens us directly.

      The point being, aside from everything else, Europe must not drop its guard against US aggression. They will eventually turn their military sights on us, and we must stand together.

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        It looks more like their Dictator wanted to start another war (possibly to distract from his many crimes, or to distract from his domestic racist death squads, or to raise his side’s standing in the upcoming elections, or to distract as he works to rig said election), and did so because nobody can stop him

        that’s a domestic concern

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            Obinice was asking if there was a domestic concern driving this war…

            I replied saying that hiding the Trump-Epstein files IS a domestic concern and, as far as I can tell, the only reason the USA went to war with Iran

            The war itself is not a domestic concern… but the reason the USA is spending a billion a day, killing innocent children and civilians and exposing their troops and allies to danger is simply so the Orange Pedophile Rapist they elected as president is not exposed to his past crimes

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      No domestic concerns IMO, it’s just the result of certain factions inside of America colluding (the ones bribed by/working for AIPAC and likewise but for the MIC). Ammunition needs to be consumed, weapons need to be sold, for the MIC to make profit and Israel is basically a rogue colony who wants a Greater Israel or at least enough destruction in the region to make them normalize with Israel in very favourable terms. Add the possibility of Mossad having some truly disgusting media on Trump and Trump considering going the way of Netanyahu (he’s gonna have to create or use the already existing chaos to sell us the “America is going through extremely dire times so I’m gonna have to stay in power to correct it, it’s an emergency!” and rule until he dies, I guess?) and this new Judeo-American crime against humanity was basically always gonna happen.

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          Agreed. Whether it’s scandal or socioeconomic issues, within America, it’s a domestic concern.

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      when those families retaliate, they would be called terrorists

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        Sadly our sides use language that differentiates, just like that. I’m confident that the White House contains a regime of unhinged religious cultists, suppressing the people and starting wars.

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    “It’s always been a four-week process. We figured it will be four weeks or so. It’s always been about a four-week process, so – as strong as it is, it’s a big country, it’ll take four weeks – or less,”

    – Donald Trump (2026-Mar-01)

    source

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      It’s always going to be 4 weeks away, like the Iranian nuke was always 2 months away.

      Granted that something has to give in the next few months, but it might as well be the entire world economy crashing beyond repair.

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    “No shit.” -Everyone paying attention

    This is Trump trying to one-up Putin with “I can do Ukraine better than you can” strongman mental illness.