It’s been a stereotype for at least the last 50 years. Why has this never changed? Why has organized labor not had a substantial effect for such an essential part of the workforce?

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    There is no final victory. Ever. Not even an imaginary moral victory.

    There is only and has only ever been the fight.

    It’s human nature.

    Case in point: The tone of your comment above is combative and accusatory, rather than friendly or neutral. Why?

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      If you want to fight, you have to be prepared to lose.

      Your words.

      You are the one with the idea that it has to be a fight.

      Like I said, it’s better to compromise and take small victories instead of push for a heroic resolution.

      And, unless you feel like answering the question I posed* before, don’t bother to answer.

      *I asked why we should do as Frederick Douglas did, supporting imperfect candidates who might be persuaded in the future, over ‘perfect’ candidates with no chance of winning?

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        Let’s review:

        1. You don’t believe in fighting, you’d rather comprise
        2. The relationship of Douglass and Lincoln exemplifies this type of compromise

        AND yet…it all led to the Civil War. Which was necessary to stop the selling human beings for profit.

        So, yes, if you look at the relationship between the two political entities involved, a compromise was reached. But that compromise was worthless in preventing violence.

        Violence was always inevitable. It started with violence toward Africans - kidnapping and slavery. The only way to end it was more violence - a bloody, vicious civil war. This is the human condition.