Can you guys suggest some reliable and secure selfhosted IM service? I’m kinda in a very bad spot right now, so any centralized messaging wouldn’t really work. And yeah, state sponsored mass surveillance is a question of concern. Sorry for odd phrasing, just really at a loss.
I heard of matrix, XMPP (heard good things about snikket.org), SimpleX and even some IRC wizardry over TOR. And I actually tried matrix (synapse server), but found it not reliable enough - sometimes skips a notification, periodic troubles with logging in, weird lack of voice calls on mobile client, and some other irritating, tiny hiccups. I’m open to any suggestion, really, even open to trying matrix once again. Just, please, describe why you think one option is better than the other.
And just FYI, use case is simply texting with friends and family, while avoiding state monitoring. Nothing nefarious
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Your issues with voice calls are likely because you didn’t set them up, and the web client was using the fallback server.
For Matrix consider Continuwuity instead of Synapse if you want something easier to maintain. You’ll also want to set up Element Call (i.e. the “new” calling stack) for wider client support.
Notifications can be unreliable but it depends on your push provider (e.g. don’t use the default ntfy.sh instance, use another one or selfhost yours). Do let me know of any other nits though.
For XMPP, notifications is most reliable as it maintains an in-band connection to the server. A/V is a bit more lacking, as mobile clients can only do 1:1 calls, and it misses some smaller features compared to matrix. But it’s very lightweight and should be more than capable for use with family and friends.
And just FYI, use case is simply texting with friends and family, while avoiding state monitoring.
Signal. There’s nothing better for security, ease of use, and features. It’s a drop in replacement for texts and imessage and facetime.
Thanks for reply. Unfortunately, we can’t use it, should be exclusively selfhosted service :( I do like Signal, tho, great app
That’s rough. Signal is the only app that can actually be trusted to resist state monitoring because it has a successful history of it.
I guess another option to throw into the pool is https://docs.cwtch.im/ then. It’s new though, and not as easy to use.
Be aware that the Signal Foundation still runs servers for the signal service. If a state actor compromises them, e2ee is no longer guaranteed.
Lots. But the difficulty as ever is finding something that the people you want to talk about are also using.
Let’s just that we all are so fucked, that we’d use anything that works. So that’s not a problem to convince them to switch, we all are ready to switch
Gamers Nexus posted a video recently about Discord alternatives.
That was a great video actually. I thought that Zuli was kinda cool, shame it’s a paid service. Not that I mind paying, just quite literally can’t. Funnily enough, they hit the same issue with broken voice calls on mobile Element client
Try Delta chat (chatmail server)
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