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can already tell this is gonna be the most insufferable comment section of all time
Wtf is wrong with this place, why is everyone fighting
And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?This is a site populated mostly by the too edgy or too contrarian for Reddit, with the same flaws in incentive systems as Reddit, why are you surprised lol.
I mean I’m just here because of the API thing
Theres no place for nuance here, get outta here! /s
Same, and I’d count that as contrarian behaviour.
No it’s not!
lot of old farts on here that never grew up on youtube, just ignore the bitter old heads and people who think there too highspeed to have ever enjoyed his videos.
Didn’t downvote. I’m old…like probably the oldest user here, and tho I have heard of Pewdiepie, I’ve never seen any of his videos nor do I know any of his lore.
are you bitter? if not then you dont apply.
Never tasted myself.
Me either, I’m too old and inflexible to try that anymore.
And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?
He took a fascist turn during Trump 1 and never really recovered his image. Got into a bunch of weird exploitative shit, not unlike Mr Beast. The most notable being when he tested the Fiverr service and paid five dollars to get Indian freelance actors to laugh and show a sign saying ‘Death to all Jews’.
After that, he started getting deplatformed and his following fell off considerably. So, like a bunch of other has-been YouTube starlets, he decided to get even more edgy and reactionary, further poisoning his image. It’s the same death spiral Russell Brand and Rob Schneider fell down.
Not to defend them or completely dismiss their part in all that, pretty sure it was just someone else sending the fiverr video to them and them opening it while streaming. But the latter incident, where they shouted some slurs on air while playing some game, that’s I think more inexcusable. But I always got the impression they never were actual nazi or far right despite the subject matter of the incidents, it’s more just them being an idiot and trying to be funny and edgy for content and missing the target entirely on a couple of occasions. I think the aftermath speaks for itself, they did some reflecting and ended up changing the formula and content type entirely, and we are now seeing the fruits of that effort.
I don’t mean to belittle the shit they’ve pulled, but I also don’t want to paint anyone irredeemable, even less when they actually manage to do introspection and change. We should encourage that and highlight that instead. I’d reserve the unconditional hate and spite for those that deserve it, that don’t change, don’t reflect, perhaps actually mean the things they do and say, with passion.
Is bigotry for clout not somehow worse than at least holding a bigoted conviction?
Sorry, but something I’ve had to learn with time is that it really doesn’t matter who’s operating the gas chamber, if their actions rely on hundreds of other people openly saying “Death to all jews”. There’s no importance to whether those people would ever pull the lever themselves. The language is what’s important, not how much they were “only joking”. Both an ultra-racist and an edgy teen in their late 20s are just “trying to get away with it” and don’t care who they hurt.
Damn, WSJ really succeeded in their campaign
Yeah I’m certainly not going to claim to be an avid or long time watcher of pewdiepie but… No he didn’t? The fiverr thing happened, sure. But the rest of that is wild conjecture and misinformation.
no its just virtue signalers and keyboard warriors remembering hed did a bad thing that one time on the bridge and assumed hes a Nazi now.
hed did a bad thing that one time
Far more than the one time. He had a whole routine about exploiting overseas labor to perform humiliating stunts.
Nah I’m not going to take a lecturing, each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained, it’s why a lot of people on this page aren’t taking you guys seriously, your type are to tightly wound up
each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained
You hear this from serial sexual harassers all the time. Every individual incident has plausible deniability. It’s the trend line that eventually catches up with you.
your type are to tightly wound up
My type being… big budget advertisers on YouTube?
I don’t really see the things he did and said (he didn’t AFAIK actually make that fiverr order btw) as taking “a fascist turn”. Not excusing him using slurs on stream or his weird dogwhistles to fascists during that period, though, he certainly did and said things he should not have. But I think there’s a difference between farming edgy meme culture, in an insensitive way, for views, and actually espousing fascist views and trying to convert people to them. I might be missing something, and I’m under no illusion that the guy is some perfectly kind and humble person, but I think he’s more than made up for his prior mistakes as a public figure, with what he’s doing as a public figure now. It’s quite clear he’s no longer in the cancerous influencer rat race, and hasn’t been for some time.
The nazi who shot and killed 51 Muslim worshipers in Christchurch in 2017, shouted ‘subscribe to pewdiepie’ at the start of his live streamed rampage
you’ll have to excuse me if I never let that go
I’m old. I never understood the appeal of that cunt.
Im old and I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.
He literally defined low Q brain rot videos. there are good uses of YouTube, then there is this guy.
Homie, they couldn’t waterboard me into posting that sentence publicly
He said the nword once (terrible thing), almost a decade ago, apologized for it and improved (I guess) as a person
I’m sick of internet people calling for a guillotine whenever someone makes a mistake even onceThe person I was responding to said
I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.
My point was not necessarily that he needs to be excommunicated from humanity, but that they might want to reconsider whether him “being the same guy all this years” is a good thing
(I do not actually give a single shit about Pewdiepie in any fashion positive or negative)
Maybe is because im not from US but i dont give a damn about this stuff. He is swedish so I totally get that he didnt gave a damn at the time either. This Nword stuff is a strange cultural trait of one of the most racial aware countries in the world that, btw, is very racist overall. And I agree that now he is more mature but I dont thing he essentially changed. He has been always very goofy and still is.
…Yeah man I’m American, don’t worry, you’ll never catch me arguing that America isn’t a racist country lol. This place fucking sucks, and that’s one of the big reasons why.
Like I said I truly do not care about Pewdiepie. I don’t want anything bad to happen to him, I wouldn’t go out of my way to make anything good happen for him, he’s just irrelevant to me and that’s fine for both of us I imagine.
Though I will say that if you elect to “not give a damn” about other people being exposed to racial slurs which make them feel dehumanized though, you’re an asshole and a privileged one at that. Just because it may not be particularly relevant in your culture (though, back on 420chan [I’m old], I remember Swedish people whining nonstop about the Somali immigrants in their country, so I’m not sure I’m entirely convinced that it isn’t a Swedish issue too) doesn’t mean you shouldn’t care about how it can hurt other people. Especially when said by someone with a global audience, especially when that global audience is largely children or teenagers.
But also, to reiterate my reiteration: I do not care about Pewdiepie and am not suggesting he be exiled from humanity, only that he probably shouldn’t do that again. Which it sounds like he hasn’t, so… good?
Well you sound about right in almost everything to be honest. Still I dont think he was that bad or that influential in terms of ideology just goofy and he probably now know that is better to not navigate this waters again. And well … I care about pewdiepie. To me he always was good and now is producing a net good for humanity so… very good?
You mean Here on fedi?
I think he’s a tool, but credit where it’s due: it’s great that he’s supporting the movement, and he does have a huge following.
Maybe he’s the right tool for the job
I don’t think he’s as dumb as he seems in some videos. His persona and mannerisms are very much a pan-Scandinavian thing. To me it’s a throwback to the early 00’s, when we filled our brains with plenty of Jackass, Blink 182 and Eric Cartman.
His Filthy Frank/Pink Guy aping years are definitely evident of that lol, beastmaster64 swimming into the sea to catch a Pokemon made for some funny moments.
Self-hosting is a literal addiction. lol
I started with just an invidious instance and now I have my own audiobooks app that I’m also turning into a navidrome client. Did I say jellyfin and pihole, too?It really is 😅
I never thought that I’d want to spend my Saturdays fiddling with servers, but here I am
If you have bought audiobooks on audible that you would like to add to your own server, I can recomment Libation or this great docker image of it that comes with vnc so you host it headlessly on your server https://hub.docker.com/r/ceramicwhite/libation
Thank you. But Amazon will never taste a penny of my money. All of my books are downloaded from YouTube in the form of mp3 then converted to m4b.
Pihole, then Jellyfin here.
I now have way too much IT stuff on my room :D
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Damn. That’s a lot of money. I actually didn’t spend anything on the hardware. I have a friend who gave me a dell optiplex he was about to throw away and a 2 bay Synology NAS with 8TB storage already on it when he upgraded. Been using them for 3 years now. The optiplex now runs Debian server, and the SynNAS is mounted to it as a mass storage for my stuff.
There’s some irony in that sponsor block has to block four segments of the video.
The people hating on him clearly haven’t seen much of his content lately. He’s grown up and has his life together pretty well now. If you think nobody is deserving of a second chance then you do you, nobody is forcing you to watch his content. I honestly love his redemption arc and I’ve watched some of his content lately and really enjoyed it. And good for him that he likes self hosting and is doing all these pc DIY projects.
he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences, he merely fled to japan to avoid and waited til all the drama died down, he mostly isnt on a redeeming arc, everyone just forgot about him.
he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences,
- He publically apologized for it (no ukulele though, which is how you know it’s a fake apology)
- He didn’t do it again
What else would you want him to do?
And what consequences are you specifically talking about?
Over the years I think I care less about some public apology or statement to accept that a creator has moved past old behavior (I assume you’re talking about the bridge, I don’t really follow PewDiePie).
We see too many fake apologies and if it’s been some time, apologizing just gives an opportunity for viewers to dogpile when someone is trying to move past something.
I think if it’s been a few years and he’s clearly shown to have grown past it, that’s enough for me. You never really know what a content creator’s private beliefs are just how they choose to use their public persona.
I’ve never seen piewdiepie before his Linux journey. What did he do and what consequences does he deserve?
He did/said a bunch of racist shit in videos/streams.
In 2019 someone livestreamed themself committing a hate-crime/mass shooting, killing 51 Muslim people in New Zealand. The shooter began his livestream with “subscribe to Pewdiepie!”
That seemed to be a rude awakening for Pewdiepie, and I believe that he’s stopped with the racist shit.
People moved on long before he moved to Japan, or at least most people, there are still some that hate him for a mistake he made many years ago.
People can change and grow up and deserve second changes, I grew up racist just because of my environment, but as I got older I grew out of that and saw that it’s wrong and hurts and divides people.
Am I also unremarkable because of what I used to be like before my brain was fully formed?
I love everything he has been doing recently. He is a master of story telling and goes surprisingly far into solving technology challenges, while keeping it fun and real. What an amazing transformation really
He did already have a background vocationally in this space so it wasn’t a transformation from nothing. Great stuff nonetheless!
Didnt know pewds is breaching into the tech sphere (from gaming).
Do I need to sub him now? :pHis redemption arch is in full swing.
He has a video on “I switched to Linux, and you should too” and a deGoogle video
Beyond his interest in FOSS and privacy, he’s also just mellowed out a ton, the dude is in his mid (late?) thirties and you can tell.
Dude is also wealthy as fuck. That helps a ton.
His Japan & family vlogs are also really chill - he has become much more chill and proper. If you remember him from when he got big on YouTube 10 - 15 years ago, he was a completely different person!
Mixed results.
He’s less annoying than he was covering gaming, he has some occasional hot takes, but I think overall he’s a positive influence.
I’ve never been into his content but I really enjoyed his journey to build a better local LLM. Way more technical than I thought he was capable of. I identified with his downward spiral into madness on his journey to do something completely useless but super interesting.
I never cared for any of his crap until last year when he deep dived into tech. The tech videos are good, he is a generally entertaining person. The dude has unlimited time and too much money, so he gets crazy deep in the weeds. It some ways I would say he is more competent that a lot of engineers. The self-hosted LLM videos are a good start.
My printer said I should
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I dont really understand, is it possible to block JUST the shorts on Youtube? Any idea where i can find more about that?
I dont want to leave youtube just yet, but occasionally the shorts are melting my brain.
Okay, since I haven’t seen anyone mention it yet, you can block shorts using ublock origin. You can block pretty much any component on any website.
You can also use it to disable JavaScript which lets you bypass maybe 60 - 70% of paywalled news articles
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Smarttube will block shorts, works best on TVs and large screen devices.
YouTube revanced will as well, make sure you download the right one, lots of fakes out there.
Not sure if you can filter out shorts within browsers with something like ublock origin filters, may need to look into it.
Shorts are literally brainrot. Fuck tiktok, fuck shorts.
Didn’t vanced die? I’m pretty sure the continuation is revanced over at https://revanced.app/
You can get the revanced app from there or github. Vance. Did die. The revanced app has all the alternatives like morphed, rvx etc
The reddit post has the recent updates, revanced, since a lot of fake ones popped up. Be safe with apks.
“Enhancer for YouTube” add-on lets you block shorts on Firefox and Chrome.
the only correct answer for desktop
That reminds me, if you want a TV experience on YouTube that can also block shorts; I recently discovered “VacuumeTube” for desktop OSes.
But yes, “Enhancer for YouTube” is the only correct answer for the desktop experience.
There is an extension for Firefox for blocking shorts. You lose the shorts button and any short you access through a link is converted into a regular, full size video.
On android you can hide/remove with revanced.
Revanced not working so well lately…
Check out Morphe which is a fork of revanced and better maintained https://github.com/morpheapp
I’ll take a look next time revanced belly ups.
I tried it twice… First it stopped with a file not found exemption in a temp folder…
The next time the app crashed.
idk what issues you have, I have it running on 5 devices
Youtube does a lot of A/B testing. Last time I ran it, I could use it on one device/account but not on another.
instead of fighting with it, I installed newpipe, pipepipe, grayjay and brave mobile. They all autoupdate. One of the 4 will always show youtube without ads. The first three don’t randomly show me anything I don’t ask for.
Mine started acting weird on wifi today, so I updated it. Getting a sponsorblock error 502, but working otherwise.
2.2.2 came out 12 hours ago, updating now to check it all again.
Here is the YouTube version I’m using.
2.2.2 is bugging out when compiling for me.
So I’m SoL.
Maybe I’ll try CLI… If I get bored or Firefox stops working(w/ublock.)
Give it a few days, I got a popup saying there was an issue, they’re working on it.
I still use YouTube but never sign in, so basically I just search for what I wanna watch, Instead of subscribing I just have the channels I want in am RSS feed.
I might consider self hosting Invidious maybe.
cool. I’ve been thinking about this too. how do you do this? does yt host the rss feeds? or do you have to like scrape them?
https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=CHANNEL_ID
Just get the channel ID and replace that
Vanced lets you remove the tab and remove the full portrait default, think it pulls shorts from results too.
A much better experience
Seconding ReVanced. RVX works like a charm. Not ready to leave the Google ecosystem just yet. But, when I do, I’ll switch to primarily using NewPipe.
I’m also keeping track of Haven as they may be an up and coming YT alternative for artists and creatives. They’re currently in seed funding so it’ll be interesting to see if they can get off the ground.
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I think it’s fairly new, but when you use search, there’s a list of filters at the top now like All, Videos, Unwatched, Watched, Recently Uploaded, etc. If you click video, it will only list videos with no shorts.
Turn off history on youtube. From that point on you will only get shorts from the people you’re actually subscribed to and nothing else.
Oh and even with history turned off when you start a regular video from one of your favored creators, the sidebar will continue to suggest videos from other people you are not subscribed to. So you will not be completely isolated. But it will tone down the brain rot considerably.
Did you watch the video?
If you are talking about the home page, I blocked the container for “featured content” using ublock, that kills short and news in the feed. If you get linked to a short, you can use a extension to redirect the URL to the normal watch player.
On Android you can remove shorts with Brave
I block minuses too
I don’t understand what’s going on with this redemption arc
Neither do I, but I’m all for it
Wasn’t his n*zi prank and all his racist shit who began the youtube downhill ?
I genuine asking, i’m not from u.s. and never watched a single video from him in all my life, i only knew him from have the youtube channel with most suscribers and the clip on PUBG bridge.
Why the fuck are you censoring Nazi. You can say fucking Nazi online. You can say fuck if you want to.
Why the FUCK are you bowing to the corpo overlords.
The censoring increases engagement
You can say Nazi. Self censorship doesn’t help anyone other than advertisers
How does self censorship help advertisers?
Self censorship makes a platform more attractive to an advertiser
I don’t understand the mechanism. I could see a benefit for an advertiser if there was self censorship for criticising that advertiser, but what is the connection between that and self censorship for the word nazi? Or is it another mechanism?
Advertisers don’t want to be viewed next to or adjacent to “problematic” content. Hence no swearing in the first 5 or so minutes in a YouTube video (right after add have played), self censoring words like cunt and suicide so algorithms don’t deprioritise you (again, because platforms make money from ads, so they won’t promote videos that aren’t as friendly).
It’s all in the service to appease advertisers, and they require platforms to roll out the red carpet wherever they tread.
The general atmosphere is “better” meaning the advertiser sees his “content” amongst more friendly surroundings
So there is less advertising in Australia and the UK than the US because they say the word cunt more?
The major content websites deprioritise Australian and UK content outside of their respective countries.
Yeah. He had that moment, but that’s ages ago. Give it a break, dude.
why did you censor nazi
He’s not from the US either. But yeah, he’s an unapologetic lunatic. Nice for him to be on the right side of something with his large audience though.
Not sure why is he lunatic, but he definitely apologised for and acknowledged what he’s done multiple times
yea thats why he fled to JAPAN for like 5+years, and then he sorta of trying to come back through his vlogs, im guessing his family vlog channel wasnt enough so he pivoted to this in tech(looking for the next grift), he definitely misses that fame and money. yea he fled to japan avoid his consequences of being anti-semitic, if you fled to another country where the drama doesnt reach you, it means you dint learn your lesson.
its the same as the asian influencers i used to follow that fled to FACEBOOK to avoid controversy(mysogyny and MAGAT-Y) on reddit, where they can control the narrative better.
Many Welps left side
Could swear I saw that last year or the year before
Blocking Ads*
What?
Now it’s correct. Just a typo I guess 😬
I fixed it, just gaslighting you.
Or maybe I’m not
pewdiepie is one of the modern celebraties that it kinda annoys me that I recognize the name. I feel like if I had not been a nerd and somehow I knew who captain kirk was even though I did not like sci fi. if I was not a nerd. I certainly like sci fi and know who captain kirk is.
I think most people in the native English speaking world recognize Kirk regardless of their opinion on sci-fi.
I mean now yeah but like in the 80’s and even 90’s not as much. wrath of con and 4 did relatively well and with blockbuster likely more people saw it. Despite that sci fi was really niche back then. How about like knowing who captain picard was in 1995.
Same I recognized his name but had never watched one of his videos, tried this one because of its content and could only get through about 2 minutes, maybe it got better but holy cow was that annoying. Not my style I guess.
