I have a self hosted HA deployment that hasn’t been updated in a while. I haven’t updated it partially because they made the boneheaded move of deprecating their YAML config in favor of GUI-only config, and partially because the developers are insufferable dickholes.

I should probably move off of the deployment that I’ve got right now at some point, but what are people currently using for home automation? Is anyone running a newer version of HA that thinks it’s not actually that bad?

  • pacjo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Hey, I like YAML config just as much as the next guy, but I understand the decision to go the GUI way.

    With large Home Assistant installs YAML gets really messy, and most changes require a reboot to show up (well, both issues could be fixed by the devs, but they chose otherwise). I really thought that I’d miss YAML, but so far it’s working just fine for me. Migration or restoring is a bit more tricky, as I prefer the start from scratch approach instead of the restore a 10 year old backup one.

    Home Assistant’s (docker install) backup is just a zip file of the config folder. This makes it easier to fix things if needed, but isn’t as nice as editing YAML directly. I’d love to have option to use YAML if I want to and GUI otherwise.

    As for developers being a bunch of assholes? Well, you’re right. Luckily the community is much better and much more helpful.

  • monty33@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I believe your characterization of the developers is unfair. This appears to be an isolated incident by a single developer, and to take that and paint a picture of the entire team as dickholes isn’t right. I’m not even sure judging this individual by his worst day is fair, but that is up to you.

  • vividspecter@lemm.eeEnglish
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    1 year ago

    and partially because the developers are insufferable dickholes.

    Is that guy an official developer? It looks like he’s just a developer of one of the add-ons, but I haven’t deeply researched this. Gross behaviour nevertheless and seems to stem from a misunderstanding of what a FOSS license means.

    EDIT: I see what you mean in this thread: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/consider-to-avoid-adding-library-dependencies-from-frenck/315185/33, although that was a couple of years ago so maybe things have cooled off a bit.

  • rentar42@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I used OpenHab a few years ago and remember it being way more fiddly with very varying integration quality. it didn’t help that it was based on OSGi packages (the complex mess that Eclipse IDE is also based on), which I don’t much care for.

    i only recently starte with HA and found it much easier to use and tweak.

    But I also saw some stubbornness by the devs. In my case related to oauth/third party authentication, which they claimed was “enterprise interests trying to corrupt a community project” (I’m paraphrasing) instead of good security practice of centralising the authentication in a homelab.

  • thejevans@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I understand both frustrations. I still run HA, and with a few addons, namely VSCode, ESPHome, and Node Red, it’s a very serviceable solution, and I don’t think anything else comes close. The config is still YAML for the most part, but you do have to go through a lot of GUI to get to edit the individual elements. That’s for sure not as nice, but I wouldn’t want to set up my complicated home theater automation on any other system.