For example, I’m Jewish, but I say “fuck Israel.” Except for my one Israeli cousin who keeps getting arrested for disobeying orders. He and his squad are cool.
I know one synagogue that was attacked was very explicitly zionist, promoting the killing of Palestinians. I doubt it’s every one, but you can’t really be that mad when you’re promoting murdering people for people to want to murder you. This isn’t exactly justification, but it is an example of reaping what you sow, which the Torah does warn about.
It’s quite literally 85-90% of jews though. If nine out of ten people want a genocide it should leave little room for debate. They are also using Synagogues to sell stolen land and hold donor parties and campaign parties, using the religious institution as a shield from seeing criticism.
You’re the second person to say some crazy number like that, without any supporting evidence. I don’t think you’re right. In the US, it’s only 1/3 of jews. Whatever the number is, it’s way too high, but it isn’t that high.
Not exactly unbiased sources. Also, the first one doesn’t quite say the same thing. It says the US should support Israel. The second source is exicitlt from a group who’s goal is to say that jews are all aligned on the idea of supporting Zionism. I don’t trust that one at all. You don’t get an unbiased poll from a group that is explicitly trying to show everyone agrees. They don’t align with the responses from the poll I cited either.
Israel and its acolytes “don’t help” by keeping repeating it’s their biblical right. This results in a unilateral meaning and use of the term “anti-Semitism”.
"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’
There’s always some vague “they”, isn’t there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It’s not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations.
The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren’t as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can’t just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people.
Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand.
the they wasn’t vague… I never said it was all…if you need specifics…
Ok, it wasn’t vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn’t include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you’re doing, which isn’t a conversation. You want to just call other people evil.
btw I’m ex Muslim so I’m well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don’t need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn’t fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it’s a fact.
Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn’t minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that’s the issue. It isn’t Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn’t special.
Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn’t the religious who are the problem, rather it’s the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim’s Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting “righteous” genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages.
also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I’m not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree
I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago.
i’m not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/… arguments. In this day and age.
The congregation was founded in 1941 in Detroit,[5] just 60 days before the United States entered World War II, by members who broke away from another congregation since it was insufficiently supportive of Zionism and the creation of a Jewish state.
I’m sure that guy knew what target he has chosen very well. It wasn’t at random.
anyone attacking synagogues is doing so of their own volition and are ACTUALLY motivated by ACTUAL antisemitism. Israel ≠ Jews as a whole
Exactly, there’s a difference between Jews and Israelis. Attacking synagogues is wrong but AIPAC offices, we can have a conversation about those.
For example, I’m Jewish, but I say “fuck Israel.” Except for my one Israeli cousin who keeps getting arrested for disobeying orders. He and his squad are cool.
I know one synagogue that was attacked was very explicitly zionist, promoting the killing of Palestinians. I doubt it’s every one, but you can’t really be that mad when you’re promoting murdering people for people to want to murder you. This isn’t exactly justification, but it is an example of reaping what you sow, which the Torah does warn about.
It’s quite literally 85-90% of jews though. If nine out of ten people want a genocide it should leave little room for debate. They are also using Synagogues to sell stolen land and hold donor parties and campaign parties, using the religious institution as a shield from seeing criticism.
You’re the second person to say some crazy number like that, without any supporting evidence. I don’t think you’re right. In the US, it’s only 1/3 of jews. Whatever the number is, it’s way too high, but it isn’t that high.
https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-survey-shows-american-jews-are-deeply-and-increasingly-connected-to-israel
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2025/02/14/the-vast-majority-of-us-jews-support-israel-lets-act-on-that-knowledge/
Not exactly unbiased sources. Also, the first one doesn’t quite say the same thing. It says the US should support Israel. The second source is exicitlt from a group who’s goal is to say that jews are all aligned on the idea of supporting Zionism. I don’t trust that one at all. You don’t get an unbiased poll from a group that is explicitly trying to show everyone agrees. They don’t align with the responses from the poll I cited either.
Israel and its acolytes “don’t help” by keeping repeating it’s their biblical right. This results in a unilateral meaning and use of the term “anti-Semitism”.
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Who stated so?
they do.
"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’
read a book, it might help you understand
“Who does…?”
“They do…”
There’s always some vague “they”, isn’t there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It’s not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations.
The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren’t as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can’t just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people.
Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand.
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Ok, it wasn’t vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn’t include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you’re doing, which isn’t a conversation. You want to just call other people evil.
Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn’t minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that’s the issue. It isn’t Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn’t special.
Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn’t the religious who are the problem, rather it’s the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim’s Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting “righteous” genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages.
don’t tell me what I meant please.
also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I’m not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree
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My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry.
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I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago.
i’m not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/… arguments. In this day and age.
Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless.
I’m sure that guy knew what target he has chosen very well. It wasn’t at random.
I’m still shocked the guy didn’t have an Al-Qaeda flag hanging from his rear window and a hoodie with Qur’an quotes like other false flags.
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