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    Remember that politics can be changed with votes. Tax them to finance change.

    It’s difficult, but blaming billionaires takes away our agency.

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      If we could change politics by voting, we wouldn’t be allowed to vote.

      We’re not stretched thin to finance these changes. Taxes aren’t holding us back. This is what those with true power in society and their cronies say to not do anything. This is the whole point.

      No one is only blaming “billionaires.” This is you patronizing them, portraying yourself as a genius and the person you’re responding to as too naive and stupid to understand how life really works.

      And no, we don’t have agency. We have a deluded sense of agency where we think we can vote and change the system from within.

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        There are levels. Voters don’t have agency. But if voters would coordinate they would have agency.

        The difference is believing in agency.

        I am aware how stupid I sound. But how else can I phrase it that there needs to be a believe in change to create change? Right now I just hope that readers ignore the stupid part.

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            Thanks for the upvote.

            There hasn’t been internet for most of history, nor global warming, nor automation.

            The joke is that people don’t want a fair revolution because the situation will be worse at first if resources are shared globally. People don’t want agency because they would be responsible for all problems.

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          I love what you said about believing in agency: knowing what power is ultimately in our hands would change the world for the better.

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            Thank you. Judging by the downvotes and objections, people deeply don’t believe it. I had expected some technical issues that prevent UBI but reading those replies makes me sad.

            This is Lemmy. People on Reddit will feel even more disenfranchised. But it could be the other way round because Marxism states that capitalist democracy doesn’t work and that a revolution is needed.

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        2 years ago

        It’s not just a matter of reversing power.

        Billionaires lead. Regular citizens would massively have to change their lives if they want to change that.

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      Remember that politics can be changed with votes. Tax them to finance change.

      I agree the wealthy need to pay a lot more in tax than they currently do.

      They also have disproportionate control over the electoral process in many countries, and most political parties are not even considering taxing them to the extent that they need to be taxed. Nor are most political parties challenging our capitalist society in any significant sense.

      Voting is important, but don’t expect voting alone to solve our problems.

      It’s difficult, but blaming billionaires takes away our agency.

      No it does not. Sod off with that. Correctly identifying a major contributor to an issue does not take away agency.

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        What but voting should solve the problems? You won’t stage a revolution.

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            2 years ago

            How about direct action to make citizens vote in a coordinated way?

            But you must have other direct actions in mind. Which ones?

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                Why strikes and mass protests? Vote accordingly and let the law drive the change.

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                  Because voting alone doesn’t work, as evidenced by the fact that it hasn’t worked over decades of us trying, you stupid wanker.

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                    People have tried to fly for centuries. The nonexistance proofs nothing. It just indicates that it is not easy.

                    Voting doesn’t work because voters are like internet users, they are a given. Citizens have to offer their votes like lobbyists offer money to have an influence.