True democracy would be filling at least one branch of government with randomly selected citizens. Career politicians are psychopaths and don’t represent us.
So jury duty on steroids?
“Plutocracy” is the term for “Financial Oligarchy” BTW. Worth knowing the term if you live in the U.S. since that’s kinda what we have here these days :/
Hold on, let me go watch a 30 min YouTube video to understand these terms
Thanks for the term! Made finding a good page for understanding it (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy) much more simple! Greatly appreciated :D
Where are all these “wah not meme :'(” types when it’s stupid fashy shit? 🤔
A technocracy is a type of oligarchy and is compatible with democracy tho
A technocrats actually makes sense. But that isn’t practical. People always at some point end up hiring their friends and putting people they know in positions of power. Nepotism and cronyism are just natural progressions, even when systems of governance start out with good intentions. Eventually someone always ruins it for everyone else.
What about random-selection jury-style technocracy?
that doesn’t sound like a technocracy or an oligarchy of any kind. that just sounds like direct democracy by lots, unless i am misunderstanding you.
A robust series of checks and balances would also help.
i guess, but only as much as any other oligarchy. you can have democracy where the only people who can vote are people with doctorates in stem fields, or who’re land owning white men, or who have their patents of nobility, or who have at least a million USD in their bank account. but really it’s not particularly in keeping with the ideal that people are usually talking about when they say ‘democracy’.
The left are champs at rallying around memes that makes no sense to anyone but themselves. Like anti memes.
They are not entirely wrong. Oligarchy influences media and thus voters and thus changes the will of the population. You should be aware of that.
Good thing memes don’t have to be funny then.
Have you meant to reply to me when the comment above says that your post is not funny?
Yeah my bad was trying to reply to the user above you.
But isn’t it amazing the right was able to convey all that with “fake news” the left always makes it sound like the right are a bunch of morons never realizing it was all well crafted.
Tbh I think a lot more things are compatible with democracy than people think.
Lol, lmao even.
Why?
Compatible means able to exist without conflict.
Well consider the fact that there is currently no conflict and no evidence that one is going to start. The Roman republic went on for 700 years with both a republican democracy and what most historians describe as a highly unequal and oligarchical distribution of power and wealth. Perhaps it fell eventually due to class struggles between the working class and the aristocracy but if it was truly incompatible, then fine it existed in a state of “incompatibility” for literal centuries and there’s no reason to believe the USA and other capitalist countries will be any different. And no reason to believe something better will come along after.
So if democracy and financial oligarchy are incompatible, why does it matter? And btw there’s probably a ton of “incompatible” things that depend on the eye of the beholder. We had racist laws enacted by statute, foreign wars, internment camps, espionage, immoral scientific experiments done by the government all could be described as incompatible with democracy. The reality is that democracy is rule by majority (nothing more, nothing less). Whatever the ethos or the common morality is will be compatible with democracy. Anything done by the elected leaders of the 51% is compatible with democracy.
Don’t get me wrong democracy is better than any other option but we need Democracy+ to really guarantee a just and equal society.
How can you possibly say there’s no conflict??
How would you describe this conflict? A bunch of lemmings shit-posting and getting fired up behind their keyboard?
We’ve had riots, insurrection and mass civil disobedience on countless issues in the last few years. When is the last time there was even a local protest against wealth inequality? It’s not really a hot button issue outside of online communities like Reddit and Lemmy.
BLM?
Jan 6?
Occupy?
Antifa?
There are constantly protests for various issues, and an armed attempted coup happened… however misguided and fascistic that event was, it was, like all others, a manifestation of the class cobflict that is going on every day.
It doesn’t have to be a literal communist uprising to count as conflict. Though I admit that is by far my favourite option.
My point, there is palpable class conflict ongoing at this very moment, as people struggle more and more, and the rich get richer and more powerful.
The problem is that most people are sadly not given the knowledge of how class works, and are fed misinformation about the causes of their problems. At best, this leads to a hyperfocus on individual issues (which do need to be addressed, don’t mistake me) and at worst, leads to fascism.
Sounds like you would support a dictatorship of the Prolitariat! Communism is pretty much Democracy+ when you think about it with at least a modicum of intellectual honesty.
I appreciate this civil discussion. That is all.
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I’m not even trying to go down the capitalism vs socialism debate route. All I’m saying is democracy isn’t like this perfect system that is only compatible with the most perfect and utopic principles.
Hitler was elected by a democracy in case you forgot.
Hitler was elected by a democracy in case you forgot.
Didn’t he lose but end up being appointed? Lol
This is not a meme.
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