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schizoidman@lemmy.zip to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 21 days ago

'It doesn’t catch fire': Why China’s "fireproof" sodium battery could be the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars

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'It doesn’t catch fire': Why China’s "fireproof" sodium battery could be the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars

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schizoidman@lemmy.zip to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 21 days ago
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New sodium battery creates an internal barrier that prevents fires
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New sodium battery technology creates an internal barrier that helps prevent battery fires

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    The “they catch fire” argument is fucking bonkers anyway.

    If there’s one thing petrol cars are famous for, it’s being filled with flammable liquids that can and do leak everywhere and combust upon collision.

    You can ignore them. Same with all the disingenuous cunts who complain about wind turbines “spoiling the view” who ignore the coal and gas power stations that have littered the skyline for over a century.

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      Lithium fires are hard to contain unlike petrol fire:

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/firefighters-forced-submerge-electric-car-082852772.html

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        So does an airplane crash would be more horrifying than a car crash, but that doesn’t change the fact that airplanes are safer.

        Even so, any improvement is still good though

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          I never said they aren’t safer I only replied to the comment that petrol cars also burn, my point is that even though they are safer overall their fires are more dangerous.

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      You can put a petrol fire out in less than a few days though. Petrol doesn’t magically catch fire upon seeing oxygen either.

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      Ah, Lemmy. You never disappoint with sharing hilariously inaccurate information in comments!

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        https://firerover.com/resources/how-often-do-ev-batteries-catch-fire/#%3A~%3Atext=Here's+what+current+studies+say%2Cper+100%2C000+for+gasoline+cars

        ICE vehicles have far more fires. EVs are more intense, but significantly less frequent

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          Uhm, the statistics are flawed. Not the fire itself is the problem, but how many people are killed by it. If an ICE vehicle burns, you usually have enough time to get out. If an EV burns, good luck.

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            I thought I was careful not to claim any stats. The only thing we know is that EV fires are less frequent but more intense.

            Probably not much data out there because it’s so infrequent. You are much more likely to die from collisions I imagine.

            I think Teslas cast a dark halo in this area as well. Newer vehicles, but it wouldn’t surprise me of their drivers carelessness mirrored their largest shareholder.

            Its worth knowing and researching to reduce fire incidence, but combustion engines have bigger problems.

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          Cool source. Ok, I’ll bite. The number of fire deaths in Teslas alone drawfs the number of fatalities in the infamous Pinto. The number is being tracked by volunteers because there’s no data from the NFPA or others that segments by EV vs ICE, but the number of highway vehicle fire deaths has been trending sharply upwards since 2016.

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