• fun_times@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    “Conservative liberalism” is an oxymoron. Centre to centre-right means social liberalism and an acceptance/approval of the welfare state.

    Conservatism of any kind is right to far-right.

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      Conservatism of any kind is right to far-right.

      What a bizarre statement. If I want to conserve social democracy, workers rights, unions, public infrastructure, etc. where as my political opponents want to ‘liberalise’ or downgrade them, that makes me a left-wing conservatist.

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        Conservatism is an ideology based on the idea of family-first policies, nationalism and religious values. You might as well claim that anarchism is anything that creates chaos or that liberalism is anything that makes you free. You have misunderstood what the word means in a political context.

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            14 days ago

            I’m Swedish.

            Not a single social democrat in my country would ever call themselves conservative, even though they want to preserve the welfare state that the right is eroding. Only the right and the far right call themselves conservatives.

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          Within politics these words are still context dependent and used to describe all sorts of stances and are open to various interpretations. It’s an umbrella term. To claim otherwise is simply besides the facts. I know lots of leftwingers who call themselves conservative. About liberalism and anarchism, yes you might use those terms in those ways, and that is actually being done all the time.

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        In most of Europe, “liberal” means being in favor of free trade, and of unregulated capitalism in general. Conservative parties in many countries are called Liberals. Even in the UK Conservatives, there’s a strong liberal (by the above definition) faction, along with the racists, authoritarians and religious reactionaries (the last of which are a much smaller minority here than in the US).

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        What is even funnier to me is that it lists the Swedish party Liberalerna as a “Conservative Liberal” party. That party has voted 100% (not 99% or 98%, exactly identical) to Moderaterna, a conservative party, during this latest four-year period. Nobody is going to vote for them in the upcoming election because they are a fundamentally unnecessary party that just does whatever Moderaterna tells them to do.