There’s 5.35 million Irish people and 348 million Americans. The article is saying the rates are changing, and that’s understandable due to the current political climate. But, it’s just not feasible for most Americans.
Natalia Lange, a migrant support worker based in Crosshaven, county Cork, moved there from Michigan with her husband after the 2024 US election. Lange, who is half-Hungarian and has an EU passport
Step 1 to becoming an EU citizen: Be an EU citizen.
I can confirm. 90% of companies don’t want to go through the Blue Card process no matter how qualified you are.
Didn’t fancy Hungary at the time though. Odd.
Why the fook would you move to a third world shit hole country on purpose???
Seriously. Don’t move to the US right now.
I recently knew two people who came to the US recently.
One was from India, and he came for the money. He has a low six figure job as a “product manager” and the CEO’s toady. He’s quite ignorant of US politics and history, so he’s not really concerned.
The other came from canada, but also has EU residency (or citizenship? unclear). He said he makes more money here. He’s making mid six figures as a software engineer at a startup, with poor work/life balance. He can always leave, since his parents own a house in germany.
Neither were coming here like an old timey tale of immigrants trying to find a better life.
I mean, wasn’t the old time reasons for coming mostly about “money”?
I feel like we tend to sorta play up the migrations from the past. I’m sure, especially earlier in history, there were more people looking for some type of freedom, but lots of people migrated for “opportunity”.
You never heard the story of the salt of the earth computer programmer who came to Ellis Island with nothing but a github portfolio and a dream?
Love it! Well done.
its because they can flee if things get bad, indians are likely wanted in other countries as well so its little loss. Its just the high income that draws them here. indians that are migrating that arnt coming from money or not in tech might have more problems.
I volunteered - worked in a hospital laboratory in Haiti for three years. I went to help.
Depending on your field, pay. Where else do software engineers make around 200k?
That number is completely meaningless, as it does not include cost of living. Especially health insurance and lack thereof
It’s definitely not meaningless.
You can take 200,000 for a few years, and go back and ruin your old local housing market.
That said - this comment aged like milk. CS is not a great career to be in rn thanks to AI
America is quickly becoming a dystopia for anyone with some semblance of a conscience.
From Ireland the way it looks to me: It has always been like that for the original inhabitants since Europeans arrived. Just that white privilege isn’t what it used to be now.
You’re not wrong. I’d say the biggest difference is that the oppression is now more overt and intense.
or for everyone without a shitload of money
I’d love to. The Irish seem like lovely people. Y’all don’t happen to need a dude good with electronics but no degree, would ya?
Realistically you’d need to get sponsored by a company unless any of your grandparents were Irish citizens (in which case it’s straightforward).
Edit: there are a decent number of tech jobs though so worth a look if you’re genuinely interested.
I’m technically eligible as my grandparents were both Irish citizens. The one negative is my wife and kids are not. My cousin who actually works for the Irish consulate said that if I had started the paperwork prior to getting married and having kids, they would be eligible. So like I can bounce out and leave my family behind, but I really don’t want to do that.
Might be worth getting the passport anyway. It’s very solid and gives you access to support from any EU consulate if you’re abroad.
Wait so it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?
I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.
it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?
That’s my understanding. Are you doing it through the grandparents rule?
I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.
I wouldn’t worry about it. There aren’t any noticeable number here tbh and any I’ve come across who have moved here are sound.
Well my grandfather was Irish but also my mother was born in Ireland so it is either a parent or grandparent option.
Oh nice. I think it’s fairly straightforward in that case, though obviously I’ve never done it. Your nearest embassy will be able to fill you in handy enough.
If you do take the plunge and have questions drop me a line by all means but with an Irish parent I’m sure you’ll have plenty of family here willing to help.
I don’t think it matters if they are a citizen or not. Every EU member state has some form of spousal and dependent program to bring them in, and if not, they could likely apply without and still get granted to stay. Just get the citizenship for yourself first and go from there.
Good call, I know an immigration lawyer. I might reach out to him, but I think he mostly deals with deportation stuff domestically, but he might know a bit or at least be able to put me in touch with someone who does.
What if you divorced, became a citizen, then remarried her in Ireland? Would she and the kids be able to get permanent residency then?
At least y’all would pass the “do you actually know each other” test.
Immigration: so how did you meet this woman?
You: well you see, it all started before we got married the first time…
That is a move. I’d imagine they probably thought about that though
Anecdata: I know 2.
From the numbers in that article it’s about 1 in every 2000 Americans going in 2025. Surprisingly high rates.
9600 last year, so less than 1 in every 30000.
That’s only to Ireland. It was 180,000 left the US in total.
Further down it says:
“at least 180,000 Americans” voluntarily left the US in 2025, which it said was a record high.
Ah, okay, I got bored before the end of the article and missed that. Thanks!
No worries :)
Time to build a wall
In what will become known as The Great Immigration Rubberbanding.
Boomeranging?
That’s when all the Americans try to go to Australia.
Nobody wants to be associated with Boomer-anything…
The Irish need to build a wall or something. And this is coming from an American.
While I get what you are saying I would argue that the Americans that are leaving and becoming immigrants aren’t the shitty Americans that would never think of such a thing.
True, it’s the educated that leave. People who have traveled outside the country.
PHD /md specifically fled like years ago, they are smart enough to know winds changed at the beginning .
Two ways you get to leave this country “easily”:
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unattached with little to lose. Go work abroad and establish residency. Cost of the plane ticket to get there.
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lots of money. Buy a golden visa.
For the rest of us it’s a major undertaking with lots of sacrifice, upheaval, risk, and difficulty.
(Yes, this is a simplification and there are exceptions, but for the most part this is true)
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americans that vote for any side of their uniparty are shitty americans.
The fact they don’t understand that is more proof they need to build that wall.
Well, there are a few big cliffs, I suppose. But that sounds like a lot of work. Hopefully the shitty weather and constant banter should keep most of ye away.
understandable, have a good day.
I’m not surprised in the slightest.
Sorry to hear about this invasion. When will they ever stop?
If I could convince my family to go, I would. If nothing else, I don’t want my kids growing up in a fascist Christian hell hole. The brain drain is real too.
No shit, America is 300 million people and Ireland is 5 million people… smaller than NYC. There will ALWAYS be more Americans going to Ireland than Irish going to America.
This article infuriates me I can’t even.
Next in news “More people die of rabies in USA than New Zealand! Wow!”
This is the first time it’s happened in at least 50 years.
Dang, Cyst O’Donavan was really onto something here
