I like that they’re trying to kill off smoking.
I don’t like this ageist bullshit.
Why don’t they just set a timeline of 5 years and all tobacco sales are prohibited after that. You’ve got 5 years to quit if you smoke.
That solves even more of the problem and isn’t ageist bullshit.
probably because it’s easier to make people not start smoking than make people stop smoking. 2008 people are below 18, so most of them probably haven’t started
2008 people are already turning 18 this year.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
People would also be less likely to start if they know they’ll have to stop in five years
So prohibition 2.0? How’d that work out again?
I think everyone stopped, we fixed all the problems and then got lots of back pats.
If they think this will actually do anything then they’re horrendously fucking stupid.
And what’s the plan in like 100 years after the previous generations die? Tobacco and nicotine just cease to exist, and there’ll be no black markets at all?
Utterly brainless cunts. Then again, I guess you don’t have to be elected or a Lord/Lady/Baroness etc by merit.
I don’t think we should be supporting carcinogenic substances known to promote lung cancer and heart disease, personally…
To be fair, that’s not what their comment was trying to do. They were saying that it would make it worse.
It does make the average person a little more marketable as ‘undesirable’. You can pay your taxes, try to live in society’s rules but god forbid you have to support criminals to get a cigarette. The black mirror social credit episode pops in my mind again.
I understand cigarettes are not heathy but there are better ways to support additions, these measures are a big brother take to undermine individuals.
Between this and other recent bans they are slowly removing the steam valves.
Did they ban nicotine or smoking? Won’t nicotine in other forms that are legal outcompete illegal cigarettes?
I also think it’s overblown though, bans in public spaces should be enough.
The article says “banned from purchasing tobacco products” and that the same smoking restrictions will now also apply for vaping. I don’t think it mentioned nicotine specifically. I think it mentioned banning the sale of disposable vapes too but here goes my memory span, useless.
People are still allowed to smoke in private spaces like their homes, but the public spaces ban would now be extra. It’s an interesting move, I don’t smoke or live there but I see both the potential good and bad ramifications from this.
I live in the UK. At this point, most of the polite smokers have moved over to vapes. Those left are almost entirely rude wankers who don’t care where their smoke goes and who it affects. The smoking ban came in because 1 smoker can affect dozens of unwilling people.
I have zero issues with vapes. The effect on others is quite minor, outside a few fog machines disguised as vapes.
Oh, so now that smoking is illegal that means it’s cool again?
Seriously, all they’re doing is making smoking cool again.
I need this in my country, but for people born after 1980. I need to quit.
I quit by switching to e-cig first. E-cigs get you halfway, an after e-cig for a year or two, it’s way easier, for instance by reducing the nicotine level.
I should not have started again after 12 years. I’m planning on getting Champix again from the doctor. Worked 13 years ago.
Best of luck quitting again. 🤞
Were you really nicotine free for 12 years and then started again?
If so, can you confirm that us smokers become conditioned to the nicotine, I’ve heard it termed smokers brain, so even after years of not smoking, you get right back in no time to the level of smoking you were at before you quit?!It took a looooong time to not have cravings anymore after quitting. Like, almost 2 years. Maybe more. But for years I had no issues with it. Last summer I got into a relationship with a chain smoker, and to not be disgusted when kissing I thought I could smoke on occasion. That went bad really fast.
Some people are more prone to addiction than others. I am not. I’ve used loads of drugs, but never had cravings or got addicted. I did it almost every weekend for several years, but quite often I would forget to clean up the mirror from the table and I never ever thought of taking some during the week. I had no issues doing kothing for periods of 4 tot 6 months, or a few years. Never cravings or anything. Same with alcohol. No issue what so ever.
Sigarettes? Fuuuuuuuuck I’m a sucker and have no self control.
But there is a very important factor in play. Cigarette factories add loads of chemicals to increase addictiveness. To make the nicotine rush faster and more intense, to make the dip more heavy causing you to light up another one. No one adds shit to ketamine to make it more potent.
even after years of not smoking, you get right back in no time to the level of smoking you were at before you quit?!
This is common with any addiction whether it be gambling, booze, or cigarettes.
OK thanks, I wasn’t aware of that, I thought it was something particular for tobacco.
All I can say is that that warning has been key for me to NOT try that single party cigarette.
I don’t think this is a good move. All drugs should be made legal, but they should be prohibited in public, their taxes raised significantly, and a license required.
Dude I get it but this is dumb. the creation of a smoking and non smoking class is fucking ridiculous. Pick a side and stick with it.
The side picked is banning smoking. It’s being done by attrition because everyone knows how hard it is to stop, easier to just prevent it from the beginning.
I can appreciate that’s the intent, but the optics are this are what creates the class disparity thing. Plus it’s abusable. They need to have a firm cutoff date to be clear that applies to everybody. Splitting hairs makes this look suspect.
How will this affect tourists over 18?
